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Ctrl+` is a horrible key for keyboard shortcut and does not work on mine #19694

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HarHarLinks opened this issue Nov 10, 2021 · 7 comments
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A-Shortcuts Keyboard shortcuts O-Uncommon Most users are unlikely to come across this or unexpected workflow S-Tolerable Low/no impact on users T-Defect

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@HarHarLinks
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Steps to reproduce

Use QWERTZ keyboard with DE layout.
See Ctrl+` is listed as shortcut for "Toggle the top left menu" and try it.

Outcome

What did you expect?

Toggle the top left menu

What happened instead?

Nothing(?), but Ctrl+Shift+´ instead increased the font size (as you would Ctrl++ to do), see below.

However I want to argue that ` is a horrible choice for a keyboard shortcut.

  • it is a "dead key". might protentially lead to problems, not sure how these work outside of typing the character.
  • it is on the "Shift" layer of at least my layout. shortcuts should use base layer keys or be described using them, e.g. Ctrl+` would be Ctrl+Shift+´ properly.
  • who knows where (if at all?) the key is present on international layouts.

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Element Nightly version: 2021110701 Olm version: 3.2.3

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aur

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dbkr commented Nov 11, 2021

Also it doesn't toggle it: it brings it up but it doesn't make it go away again.

@dbkr dbkr added A-Shortcuts Keyboard shortcuts O-Uncommon Most users are unlikely to come across this or unexpected workflow S-Tolerable Low/no impact on users labels Nov 11, 2021
@aaronraimist
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Related: #14381

@alexanderstephan
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I would like to look into this issue as I just worked on shortcuts. We could use Ctrl + Shift + I, I meaning info here. What do you think?

@SimonBrandner
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I would like to look into this issue as I just worked on shortcuts. We could use Ctrl + Shift + I, I meaning info here. What do you think?

That is already used for devtools

@alexanderstephan
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Ah, right. Maybe Alt instead of Shift then.

@HarHarLinks
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Ctrl+Shift+M as a mnemonic for menu?

Plain Ctrl+M toggles my browser's menu bar. Perhaps we should keep a list of keybinds with arguments to avoid them...

@alexanderstephan
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Ctrl + M is "mute tab" in my browser (Firefox). Ctrl + Shift + M toggles developer tools with a mobile view, but I am not sure how many people use this though. I think this is tolerable.

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