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Obsoletion request: homoserine biosynthetic process GO:0009090 #28911
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Is it desirable to always make 2 separate annotations for Hom[2/3/6]p. Following the logic, isn't it reasonable to also include isoleucine biosynthesis as the 3rd? |
As I build pathways I am making a list of processes that appear to be spurious. GO:0071269 L-homocysteine biosynthetic process are on my list |
Although I am not sure how this fits with the existing discussions about representing branch points. Maybe that rule only applies to more "linear" pathways. It is interesting that me and @Antonialock came to the same conclusion. It would be useful to wait to see what @rozaru thinks about this one when she gets to it. I don't think we would include isoleucine biosynthesis because this is clearly an end point, |
One approach would be to consult a comprehensive textbook of biochemistry like Devlin and use the pathway boundaries defined there to identify / individuate GO process boundaries and identify the defining inputs and outputs. This at least represents a biochemistry community consensus. To the extent that these boundaries are arbitrary, we can at least be consistently arbitrary. |
I cannot find homoserine or the synthesis of threonine in "Textbook of Biochemistry with Clinical Correlation (4th ed.)". Devlin does not appear to describe essential AA synthesis. Are there some other standard textbooks where I should be looking for these defined pathways? |
@raymond91125 I think that would be redundant since isoleucine is made from threonine; it ”follows on” from threonine, and is not made from a separate branch in the pathway. Threonine seems important enough to be its own module (being an essential building block and all) even though it’s arbitrary for sure where things start and end. In papers, isoleucine is “always” shown as a dashed line in the pathway; I interpret that as it being thought of as a downstream module. Similarly I wouldn’t annotate the citric acid cycle to threonine biosynthesis even though it provides the ocaloacetate to make the aspartate to make threonine.
I guess it is not in a clinical textbook since it is a microbe (and plant?) specific pathway https://biokamikazi.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/biochemistry-stryer-5th-ed.pdf (also, might be important to be aware of; lysine is made by a different pathway in fungi, it's bacteria that make it from aspartate, so there are differences between kingdoms. The specific steps in methionine biosynthesis also differ within fungi, I don't know if this is important for GO annotation) |
@Antonialock Thanks for providing additional information. Personally I prefer minimizing pathways overlapping with one another. But the most important thing is to try to be consistent within GO. |
Proposal from ontology call @raymond91125 @edwong57 @sjm41 : keep homoserine biosynthetic process because it is a branch point See also discussion here: #22542 (comment) We need to make a (final) decision and document it. Actions:
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Please provide as much information as you can:
GO term ID and Label
homoserine biosynthetic process GO:0009090
Reason for deprecation Put an x in the appropriate box:
The reason for obsoletion is that this term was an unnecessary grouping term.The reason for obsoletion is that this represents an intermediate (branch point)
threonine biosynthesis + de novo methionine biosynthesis
"Consider" term(s) (ID and label)
threonine biosynthesis + de novo methionine biosynthesis
Are there annotations to this term?
https://www.ebi.ac.uk/QuickGO/annotations?goUsage=descendants&goUsageRelationships=is_a,part_of,occurs_in&goId=GO:0009090&evidenceCode=ECO:0000269&evidenceCodeUsage=descendants
Homoserine is a toxic intermediate in the pathway that converts aspartate to threonine OR methionine; homoserine sits at the branch point of the pathway and can either be phosphorylated which leads it down the threonine biosynthesis route or acetylated which leads it towards methionine.
I don't think "homoserine biosynthesis" represents a GO biological programme, it's just an intermediate in the pathway. Genes that are part of this pathway should either be annotated to 1. de novo methionine biosynthesis or 2. to threonine biosynthesis, or 3. to both these terms if upstream of homoserine.
i.e. in the iagram below; keep the blue and the purple branches of the pathway, but remove the red
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00726-014-1873-1
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