MonacoinはTaprootを実装しないほうが良いのか? #106
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Please refrain from using an accusatory tone, as well as formulating your own stories about motives behind people you communicate with. If you want to have a constructive discussion, you should provide concrete talking points that support the changes you want to see implemented. The way your post is written does not appear to me as one that would result in positive feedback, and I'm sure you're aware of this. And don't forget, this has historically been a hobby project, per @tcejorpniocanom's words from a while back. Thus, there has never really been a roadmap or expected timeline for new features or changes apart from "when I feel it is necessary" or "when I can make time to work on it". Probably due to a lack of dedicated resources, the project has generally taken a stance of only introducing significant changes if it provides significant benefit and is applicable to this project. It can be argued that a lot of scalability issues with Bitcoin are not applicable to this project. From my cursory reading of what Taproot is (which you've gladly provided zero information on, I believe?), I am assuming that @cryptcoin-junkey's choice of not implementing Taproot is that it practically does not need it (please correct me if I'm wrong). So, perhaps it would be reasonable to provide reasons why you think this is incorrect and specify what problems it would solve on Monacoin. |
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むしろTaprootを実装してMonacoin Ordinalsを実現した方がモナコインらしくてよいと思います。 |
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LOL. @monacoin-core, totally your assumption is based on delusion. Could you wake up? |
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Read this article. It points to the root of my concern about Taproot.
I perfectly agree with these two sentences. I think no developer of Taproot/Tapscript designs it to be a garbage storage on L1. It might be "An Ordinal approach is a badass hack by genius users". I suppose there is no reason to follow their design failure in a hurry. |
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@wakiyamap のご意見はいかが? |
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ありていに言ってしまえばモナパーティーやモナカードNFTが本業である @cryptcoin-junkey はTaproot/Ordinalsが主流になると困るのでTaprootに反対しています。少なくとも世間一般はそのように認識するでしょう。従って既に見たように、 @cryptcoin-junkey と議論しても話にならないわけです。 一方Taprootはここ数年におけるBitcoinの大型の改善と言われており、Bitcoinの未来を切り開く礎となる技術であることは周知の事実です。ですからこれをMonacoinに実装することはあまりに当たり前のことと世間一般は認識すると思われます。 このディスカッションの結論は「MonacoinはTaprootを実装したほうが良い」ということで皆さんのご賛同をいただけると思います。 |
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It seems that the author of this discussion just wants to insist on his opinion. |
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lol. lmao. for a project with no actual code of conduct, deciding to "close" discussions, twice in a row, like they're issues/bug reports with no legitimate basis ain't it, chief, especially given the plethora of discussions that have for the most part reached resolution but are still open, because that's often how forums (which discussions are meant to be) typically work. (although I do see a few that should actually be closed/archived, in my opinion.) closing a thread to hide it from the default view because "just guess" is such a big brain move, but if that's how you want to run this show, be my guest. |
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You could consider a spec of GitHub discussions. If you choose the type "Q&A", I could set the thread as "answered" and keep it open. @monacoin-core might choose the wrong type in starting his discussion, maybe he has less knowledge about GitHub. And also everyone can open this discussion. Maybe google will index this. |
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脇Pのmonadによる検討の成果を待っているだけしか能のない @cryptcoin-junkey は結局どうするんですかね? |
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@cryptcoin-junkey が次のディスカッションをクローズしました。
#105
議論を続けたかったら新しくディスカッションを開けということなのでこちらを開きます。
前のディスカッションから次のことが判明しています。
@cryptcoin-junkeyの考えでは現在のモナコインにはタップルートを有効にする特別な理由はないということであり、BitcoinがTaproot/Ordinalsに関していくつかの問題に直面していると感じているそうです。
まあ、@cryptcoin-junkeyがOrdinalsを嫌う理由はよくわかります。MonacoinのL1でNFTが発行できるようになったらL2のモナパーティーの存在価値が相対的に低下してしまう可能性がありますからね。このような利害関係のある@cryptcoin-junkeyの意向だけでMonacoinの将来を決めて良いものなのか、よーく議論したほうがよいと思います。
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