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SC meeting summary - August 2022

2022-08-01

  • The Steering Council met with the Developer-in-Residence (Łukasz) and discussed:
    • The status of the 3.11 release
    • the asyncio uncancel issue
    • The number of last-minute bugs and issues that we are experiencing
  • The SC discussed the fall Core Dev Sprint with the PSF Executive Director, as well as plans for another Developer-in-Residence and offering mentoring support to core developers.
  • The SC discussed the Python 3.11 release and the approximate cause of the release blockers, as well as how to improve the situation in the future and how to gather feedback for future release managers.

2022-08-08

2022-08-15

  • The SC met with the Developer in Residence and discussed:
    • Fixing blockers for the 3.11.0rc1 release
    • An update of the CLA bot, and a future update to EdgeDB 2.0
    • Possible candidates for blog posts for the community
  • The SC met with the PSF Executive Director and discussed the organization of the 2022 Core Dev sprints.
  • The SC discussed the logistics of having a meeting with Meta as part of the Visionary sponsor relationship.
  • The SC discussed encouraging projects to release wheels for Release Candidates of new minor versions and what challenges are being faced by users and maintainers. Several possible proposals were listed, including asking NumFocus and other organizations for assistance.

2022-08-22

  • The SC briefly discussed PEP 649 – Deferred Evaluation Of Annotations Using Descriptors and what is left to decide.
  • The SC discussed several aspects of the upcoming core dev sprint.
  • The SC discussed planning of the meeting with Meta as a PSF Visionary sponsor benefit.
  • The SC discussed possibly delaying 3.11.0 due to a timing conflict with release managers and the core dev sprint and life in general. It was agreed that it is ok to delay 3.11.0 until the 24th of October.
  • The SC confirmed that 3.12alpha1 is still intended during the dev sprint.
  • As a way to improve the testing of new versions, Brett noted he's planning to work to improve GitHub CI configs to make it more likely for users to test against release candidates and betas and to make it obvious how to do it.
  • The SC discussed the migration concerns raised from the proposed migration for PEP discussion from python-dev to discuss.python.org migration. The SC noted that documentation work remains before making it fully official. Also, we won't shut down the python-dev list, but we expect PEP authors to not pay attention to it when discussing PEPs.
  • The SC discussed the possibility of inviting some non-core devs to the sprint and we agreed that a goal of focus is key for a successful sprint.
  • The SC discussed what to do with PEPs that are not regular enhancement proposals nor informative documents (like https://peps.python.org/pep-0659/). The SC decided that for PEP 659– Specializing Adaptive Interpreter in particular the status should be Final.
  • The SC agreed that we want to avoid having people write a PEP after pushing through an implementation.
  • The SC discussed CPython's backward compatibility policy and decided that we should gather input from the core devs on that. It was proposed to ask people attending the core dev sprint as a first measure.

2022-08-29

  • The SC met with the Developer in Residence and discussed:
    • Bot/CLA hosting and Heroku tiers.
    • EdgeDB update for the CLA bot.
    • Blog posts and talk ideas.
    • Typing PEPs.
  • The SC discussed details about the organization of the 2022 Core Dev sprints.
  • The SC discussed resources for mentoring and how to help core devs mentor new contributors.
  • The SC discussed PEP 674 – Disallow using macros as l-values and the changes that were merged without a PEP accepted in 3.11. Pablo will answer to the discussion that Victor started in discourse.
  • The SC discussed several aspects on how to deal with breaking changes. It was decided that this will be a discussion point with the rest of the core devs in the core dev sprint.