Skupper - SWEET32 - How can I specify available ciphers

[greg-aligiannis]

Our recent scans have identified skupper using weak ciphers.
SSL Medium Strength Cipher Suites Supported (SWEET32)
CVE-2016-2183

How can we restrict the available ciphers skupper permits?

[grs]

Can you confirm which component this was for? I.e. the router or the service-controller?

[greg-aligiannis]

Hi, thanks in advance for your help. Both the service-controller and router services are exposed and both have the same weak cipher issue.

[greg-aligiannis]

@grs

[grs]

At present there is no mechanism in skupper to configure the cipher suites explicitly. The router uses openssl, the service-controller uses go-langs tls support.

From golang/go#41476 it looks like the ciphers should have been removed from the defaults in go-lang from version 1.17

From https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2016/08/24/sweet32/ it looks like the ciphers should have been removed from 1.1.0

I believe the recent router and service-controller images should be using updated versions of golang and openssl respectively. What versions of those images are you testing against?

[greg-aligiannis]

I'm not sure I understand your analysis.
We are using OpenSSL 1.1.1k FIPS 25 Mar 2021
Golang > than 1.17
Skupper 1.2.8

When I test the ciphers returned. I get this response which clearly calls out 3DES ciphers vulnerable to SWEET32

PORT STATE SERVICE
8081/tcp open blackice-icecap
| ssl-enum-ciphers:
| TLSv1.0:
| ciphers:
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - C
| TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - C
| compressors:
| NULL
| cipher preference: server
| warnings:
| 64-bit block cipher 3DES vulnerable to SWEET32 attack
| TLSv1.1:
| ciphers:
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - C
| TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - C
| compressors:
| NULL
| cipher preference: server
| warnings:
| 64-bit block cipher 3DES vulnerable to SWEET32 attack
| TLSv1.2:
| ciphers:
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - C
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - C
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (rsa 2048) - A
| compressors:
| NULL
| cipher preference: client
| warnings:
| 64-bit block cipher 3DES vulnerable to SWEET32 attack
|_ least strength: C

[c-kruse]

@greg-aligiannis would you mind clarifying the skupper version you are using? 1.5.4 doesn't compute for me. A skupper version dump would be most helpful for me.

[greg-aligiannis]

@c-kruse , I apologize. v1.2.8.

quay.io/skupper/config-sync:1.2.8
quay.io/skupper/service-controller:1.2.8
quay.io/skupper/site-controller:1.2.8
quay.io/skupper/skupper-router:2.3.2

[grs]

@greg-aligiannis are you able to run against a more recent version for comparison? Do you have a list of ports for which 3DES is reported?

[greg-aligiannis]

Ports 8080/8081
Ports 55671/45671

Those are the ports that are being flagged.

[grs]

Regarding service-controller, @c-kruse has clarified that the fix I thought removed 3DES from defaults merely moves it to the end of the list so it is only used if nothing else is available. At present we don't have any way to configure the ciphers used for the service-controller. We will consider whether to offer such an option or just to ensure no insecure ciphers are offered in a future fix.

With regards to the router, if I run openssl ciphers -v from a container running quay.io/skupper/skupper-router:2.3.2, I don't see any 3DES.

[kgiusti]

For the router it will use whatever ciphers are available via the openssl library installed on the platform (sorted by key length - longest preferred).

You can use the "openssl ciphers" command to list all the ciphers available on the platform running the router.

[kgiusti]

Ah, and as pointed out by one of my (much smarter than me!) associates there is a way to configure openssl to use specific ciphers (I have not tried this - ymmv):

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67816301/removing-weak-ciphers-from-openssl

[greg-aligiannis]

There's something wrong. I'm not seeing the connection to openssl you're describing in your analysis.
This is a test from the same environment.

Running openssl -v from inside the skupper-router container yields this:
Note: their are no 3DES SWEET32 ciphers

openssl ciphers -v
TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 TLSv1.3 Kx=any Au=any Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD
TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 TLSv1.3 Kx=any Au=any Enc=CHACHA20/POLY1305(256) Mac=AEAD
TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 TLSv1.3 Kx=any Au=any Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD
TLS_AES_128_CCM_SHA256 TLSv1.3 Kx=any Au=any Enc=AESCCM(128) Mac=AEAD
ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD
ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD
ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=CHACHA20/POLY1305(256) Mac=AEAD
ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=CHACHA20/POLY1305(256) Mac=AEAD
ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-CCM TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AESCCM(256) Mac=AEAD
ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD
ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD
ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-CCM TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AESCCM(128) Mac=AEAD
ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256
ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256
ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-SHA TLSv1 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA TLSv1 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-SHA TLSv1 Kx=ECDH Au=ECDSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA TLSv1 Kx=ECDH Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD
AES256-CCM TLSv1.2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AESCCM(256) Mac=AEAD
AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD
AES128-CCM TLSv1.2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AESCCM(128) Mac=AEAD
AES256-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA256
AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256
AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=RSA Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD
DHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=CHACHA20/POLY1305(256) Mac=AEAD
DHE-RSA-AES256-CCM TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AESCCM(256) Mac=AEAD
DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD
DHE-RSA-AES128-CCM TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AESCCM(128) Mac=AEAD
DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA256
DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256
DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DH Au=RSA Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
PSK-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD
PSK-CHACHA20-POLY1305 TLSv1.2 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=CHACHA20/POLY1305(256) Mac=AEAD
PSK-AES256-CCM TLSv1.2 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=AESCCM(256) Mac=AEAD
PSK-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD
PSK-AES128-CCM TLSv1.2 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=AESCCM(128) Mac=AEAD
PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA256 TLSv1 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256
PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=PSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
DHE-PSK-AES256-GCM-SHA384 TLSv1.2 Kx=DHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=AESGCM(256) Mac=AEAD
DHE-PSK-CHACHA20-POLY1305 TLSv1.2 Kx=DHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=CHACHA20/POLY1305(256) Mac=AEAD
DHE-PSK-AES256-CCM TLSv1.2 Kx=DHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=AESCCM(256) Mac=AEAD
DHE-PSK-AES128-GCM-SHA256 TLSv1.2 Kx=DHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=AESGCM(128) Mac=AEAD
DHE-PSK-AES128-CCM TLSv1.2 Kx=DHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=AESCCM(128) Mac=AEAD
DHE-PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
DHE-PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA256 TLSv1 Kx=DHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256
DHE-PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA SSLv3 Kx=DHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-PSK-CHACHA20-POLY1305 TLSv1.2 Kx=ECDHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=CHACHA20/POLY1305(256) Mac=AEAD
ECDHE-PSK-AES256-CBC-SHA TLSv1 Kx=ECDHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(256) Mac=SHA1
ECDHE-PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA256 TLSv1 Kx=ECDHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA256
ECDHE-PSK-AES128-CBC-SHA TLSv1 Kx=ECDHEPSK Au=PSK Enc=AES(128) Mac=SHA1

Running against the skupper-router service:
I see 3DES Ciphers which are affected by SWEET32 listed

nmap -sV --script ssl-enum-ciphers -p 55671 x.y.z.a

PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION
55671/tcp open ssl/unknown
| ssl-enum-ciphers:
| TLSv1.2:
| ciphers:
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (dh 2048) - C
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM_8 (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM_8 (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_128_GCM_SHA256 (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_256_GCM_SHA384 (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA256 (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA256 (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA (dh 2048) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - C
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_128_GCM_SHA256 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_ARIA_256_GCM_SHA384 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA256 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA384 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (secp256r1) - A
| TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA (secp256r1) - C
| TLS_RSA_WITH_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - C
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CCM_8 (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CCM_8 (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_ARIA_128_GCM_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_ARIA_256_GCM_SHA384 (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_128_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_CAMELLIA_256_CBC_SHA256 (rsa 2048) - A
| TLS_RSA_WITH_RC4_128_SHA (rsa 2048) - C
| TLS_RSA_WITH_SEED_CBC_SHA (rsa 2048) - A
| compressors:
| NULL
| cipher preference: client
| warnings:
| 64-bit block cipher 3DES vulnerable to SWEET32 attack
| Broken cipher RC4 is deprecated by RFC 7465
|_ least strength: C

Service detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at https://nmap.org/submit/ .
Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 15.95 seconds

[c-kruse]

@greg-aligiannis just wanted to confirm I am seeing what you are seeing, although I am far from being able to explain why those ciphers are offered from the router service (for the 4/55671 ports), I did notice that the next router release paired with (with skupper 1.4) does not offer any of those offending ciphers.

[kgiusti]

Wow - I have no idea why there's discrepancy between the results of openssl ciphers and nmap. The router filters the available ciphers via a call to SSL_CTX_set_cipher_list() with a value of 'ALL:!aNULL!eNULL:@strength'. My understanding is that shouldn't include any ciphers disabled by default - though I could be wrong.

Does running

openssl ciphers -v 'ALL:!aNULL!eNULL:@STRENGTH'

from within the router container also show 3DES?

I'm at a loss to explain this.

[grs]

It does. If you use 'DEFAULT:!aNULL!eNULL:@strength' it does not.

As @c-kruse notes, with the latest router image even 'ALL:!aNULL!eNULL:@strength' does not include any 3DES.