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Change term - vernacularName #524

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nielsklazenga opened this issue Sep 18, 2024 · 4 comments
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Change term - vernacularName #524

nielsklazenga opened this issue Sep 18, 2024 · 4 comments

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@nielsklazenga
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nielsklazenga commented Sep 18, 2024

Term change

  • Submitter: Niels Klazenga
  • Efficacy Justification (why is this change necessary?): The current definition is self-referencing (so not a definition).
  • Demand Justification (if the change is semantic in nature, name at least two organizations that independently need this term): The current definition is self-referencing (so not a definition).
  • Stability Justification (what concerns are there that this might affect existing implementations?): The proposed change only changes the words of the definition, not the meaning, so will not affect existing applications.
  • Implications for dwciri: namespace (does this change affect a dwciri term version)?: There is no equivalent term in the dwciri namespace. The proposed definition is what we are going with at the moment for the IRI equivalent in TCS (property: vernacularName tcs2#10).

https://dwc.tdwg.org/list/#dwc_vernacularName

Current definition: A common or vernacular name.
Proposed definition: Name for an organism or organisms in a language used for general purposes.

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qgroom commented Sep 20, 2024

Your proposed definition is also self-referencing.
Also, vernacular names are not necessarily used for general purposes.

A term used in a language to refer to a taxon, often varying by region or community and distinct from its scientific designation.

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nielsklazenga commented Sep 20, 2024

@qgroom, it is not and it is the language that is used for general purposes. It is also not really my definition, as I took the first part of the definition in Hawksworth 2010.

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Is "organism" the right target for the term? dwc:vernacularName is currently organized in the dwc:Taxon class and so these names are alternative names for something taxonomic. I would like to avoid confusion of a dwc:Taxon term also being a dwc:Organism term. It is clearly not the latter.

@nielsklazenga
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Yes, that is an issue for me too. The 'organism' is not such a problem in TCS, but it still does not sound right (actually, as TCS is meant to complement Darwin Core, it is just as big an issue in TCS). I am happy to replace 'organism or organisms' with 'taxon'. In Darwin Core you could use 'dwc:Taxon', which would be a bit of an issue for TCS, as we borrow the Darwin Core term in TCS where it is used on a tcs:TaxonConcept (the tcs:vernacularName is an IRI property ).

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