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Brainstorming Stuff #11

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serapath opened this issue Mar 11, 2017 · 0 comments
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Brainstorming Stuff #11

serapath opened this issue Mar 11, 2017 · 0 comments

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PHASES

  • Everyone can make Tasks
  • Everyone can vote on Tasks with Points
  • Executors of Tasks get paid all voted Points
  • Everyone who voted less Points than median will pay difference in Points to pool
  • Pool is distributed to Everyone equally
  • Everyone who ends up with negative Points is filled to 0 Points by everyone paying equally
  • Previous step is repetead until nobody has less than 0 Points

Calculation for 3 "stereotypical" examples:

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One thing upfront:
"git":

  • nobody earns money
  • linus torvalds started it
  • everyone can fork it
  • git does not create income that can be distributed (everyone is volunteering)

=> Question: How could someone abuse it here for what?
=> Answer: I don't see any meaningful way

"company":

  • people earn money from a customer base that gets distributed
  • people build brand & other assets that are of value
  • both, customer base & assets cannot be forked, at least not easily

=> Question: How could someone abuse it here for what?
=> Answer: "Leaders" can always abuse their power to redirect resources to themselves
(That's what happens everyday in every company - thus: world wide wealth inequality)

Tax idea:

  • There is a base of points that should meet the quantity of users.

  • There is an income tax, for example 20%

  • There is no voting. Humans pick leader (like benevolent dictator in git) for life with no use of machines. Leader should like doing administration, company work and decision making.

    • @serapath: so someone is elected to have all the power over my resources?
    • @serapath: if i join an existing "company", how is this different from current companies?
  • Tasks get approved by the lieutenants (again, like in git) after they are done and the points get taxed.

    • @serapath: doesn't sound appealing to me... do we elect the lieutenants?
  • The tax get distributed to the active members.

  • An active member is someone who finished at least one task (this we discuss when we meet, how to expire someone's active member status). This way one cannot be a parricide.

    • @serapath: sounds like opening the door wide for politics...
  • Points from the task (after taxation) go to the one who finished it.

  • Then we rebase.

  • Then we share revenue.

  • This way we stop trying to create an artificial democracy. Try to play this system.

    • @serapath: not sure what "artificial" means here - but why is it a bad thing to try?
  • People hate taxes because they don't know where the money goes to. Here it's all clear and simple. You pay to the community because you like to live in a community.

  • The democratic part of this is that you choose the community that you want to live with. It is not compulsory to join a community. You can even start your own.


ASSUMPTIONS:

  • Tasks are Activities that should lead towards creating Revenue
  • Business requires Tasks
  • Members share Revenue based on their Tasks
  • Members share Costs
  • Business will not have Assets
    • example: we only buy stickers if we plan to distribute them i.e. in all coworking spaces.
    • what about internet domains?
  • ...

ASSUMPTIONS OPEN THESE QUESTIONS :

  1. How to become a Member?
  2. Which kind of Tasks can a Member do?
  3. How much share of the Revenue does a Member get for Tasks?

Game Proposal:

  • @1. Everyone can become a Member (=Open Membership) -

    • I would like possibilty that everyone can join (+1)
  • @2. There is a Public Board where everyone can publish any Task

    • I also think this is importand because then members, customers, partners... everyone can give us a free ideas)
  • New Member gets Points only when he does something

    • (WHY? Is there some other way?)
  • Members pay by voting for Activities

    • (we need to answer ourselves - why exactly should members pay for voting, just that every rule has exact answer for its - Why?)
  • What if some rich Members invent and execute fake Tasks all the time?

  • What if free riders join to earn?

PHASES

  • Everyone can make Tasks
  • Everyone can vote on Tasks with Points
  • Executors of Tasks get paid all voted Points
  • Everyone who voted less Points than median will pay difference in Points to pool
  • Pool is distributed to Everyone equally
  • Everyone who ends up with negative Points is filled to 0 Points by everyone paying equally
  • Previous step is repetead until nobody has less than 0 Points

Calculation for 3 "stereotypical" examples:
etherCalc example

RULES

  • PERSON can make a TASK
  • PERSONS can vote on TASKS to decide which should be executed and paid by all
  • VOTING should cost, so only meaningful TASKS will get "execution allowance"
  • VOTING LESS than average should cost too
    • can be rigged, by a few people voting a lot
  • VOTING LESS than the median should cost too

e.g.
everyone who votes less than the median will pay the difference from the points they used to vote to the median voter and the sum is distributed to? ...

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