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[RFC 0133] Git hashing and Git-hashing-based remote stores #133

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@Ericson2314 Ericson2314 commented Aug 28, 2022

Teach Nix Git hashing for store objects along-side flat and NAR hashing.
Also teach it to use remote stores that don't know about Nix concepts but do know about git hashing as substituters.

This follows the work done and described in https://github.com/obsidiansystems/ipfs-nix-guide/. The idea is that IPFS can act as one such store, but Nix need not know about IPFS per se, since they both "speak" Git hashing. Also, software heritage can act as another.

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Ericson2314 commented Aug 29, 2022

I would like to nominate @kevincox based on his feedback already (yay!) and his participation in the previous RFC #122 meetings.

I also suspect we'll need one or both of @edolstra and @thufschmitt for changes to Nix like this, so I nominate them both too.

I also suspect @fricklerhandwerk and @tomberek might be interested also, time permitting. I would not mind extra shepherds for this one!

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I love the possibility of distributed content-addressed caches. I accept the nomination.

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edolstra commented Sep 7, 2022

This RFC is open for shepherd nominations!

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@Ericson2314 Sorry, I can't commit any time to this. I like the idea a lot, but would have to go into more depth to be of any help, and this would be too much at the moment.

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@fricklerhandwerk No problem at all :). I figured might be the case, but wanted to extend the nomination anyways based on our prior conversation.

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edolstra commented Oct 5, 2022

I accept the shepherd nomination.

We need at least one more shepherd. Any takers?

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On behalf of the shepherd committee, I declare this RFC to be in the Final Comment Period!

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They are now in an `ipfs-2` branch in this repo.
That can go in a separate blog post.
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different versions of IPFS have different default chunking parameters so ipfs add gives different CIDs.

you have two options:

  1. generate a .car file (archive of IPLD blocks) and send that to the pinning service.
  2. Send raw IPLD blocks through bitswap, for example with a tool like auspinner

guess what, There is defaults in the reference implementation of ipfs (balanced dag, 256KiB dag, protobuf wrapping) but pinning services don't follow them necessarily.

Additional info:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59183147/are-cid-different-for-the-same-file-but-uploaded-by-2-users-in-ipfs
https://discuss.ipfs.tech/t/cid-concept-is-broken/9733

Here is a google 'version' of IPFS, note the segmentation of the hash in the URI format:

https://github.com/google/ent

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The other stuff is already in flight, we don't need to talk about it so much here.

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Excited to report we now have the first part implemented: the git-hashing experimental feature exists, and can use git hashing for adding objects to the store!

For how to use this, one can consult https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/master/tests/functional/git-hashing/simple.sh

In particular,

nix store add --mode git --hash-algo sha1 <file>

should work!

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* ipfs: Copy Template

* ipfs: Start drafting

* ipfs: Finish draft

* ipfs: Expand discussion of managing complexity

* ipfs: Fix typos

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* ipfs: Fix more typos

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* ipfs: FInish motivation on source distribution and archival

* ipfs: Rename now that we have number

* Apply suggestions from code review

Thanks!

Co-authored-by: Kevin Cox <[email protected]>

* Fix typos

Thanks!

Co-authored-by: Adam Joseph <[email protected]>

* 133: Add shepherd team!

Co-authored-by: Eelco Dolstra <[email protected]>

* 133: Fix shepherds list

mjoseph -> amjoseph

* 133: Move non-`git` steps to future work

* 133: Move one more section out of future work

* 133: Move IPFS-specific motivation to future work too

* 133: Rename feature in light of changes

* 133: Rename RFC in light of changes

* 133: Discuss the downside of git's file system model being different

* Split future work, clean up Nix-agnostic stores section

* Fix numerious typos

Thanks, all of you!

Co-authored-by: Kevin Cox <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: Adam Joseph <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: Linus Heckemann <[email protected]>

* Add RFC open PR date

* Be clearer about not supporting references to start

* Update rfcs/0133-git-hashing.md

Co-authored-by: Kevin Cox <[email protected]>

* Rip out both RFC-scal Future Work sections

They are now in an `ipfs-2` branch in this repo.

* Remove "Build adoption through seamless interop"

That can go in a separate blog post.

* Apply suggestions from code review

Thank you both!!

Co-authored-by: Valentin Gagarin <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: Ryan Lahfa <[email protected]>

* Slim down the layering section

The other stuff is already in flight, we don't need to talk about it so much here.

Co-authored-by: Valentin Gagarin <[email protected]>

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Co-authored-by: Kevin Cox <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: Adam Joseph <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: Eelco Dolstra <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: Linus Heckemann <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: Valentin Gagarin <[email protected]>
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