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Flex dimensions: Rename "Fill" to "Grow". #62779

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Flex tools have a dimensions control that lets you choose between Fit, Fill and Fixed:

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This PR renames "Fill" to "Grow":

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Why?

Here's a menu-design use case, as an example:

menu test

In that GIF, a horizontal navigation menu featureing a site title, a menu, and a button is built. In this, the site title is set to "fill", so it pushes the navigation menu and the button to the right most side of the header, accomplishing the desire design. But it would easily be confused in this case, to suggest that "fill" should fill the available space, and not also imply pushing the other content rightwards. Whereas "Grow" does suggest filling the available space, but also implies pushing other contents aside.

Testing Instructions

Insert a row block with a couple of child blocks. View the inspetor for a child block, and see "Grow" instead of "Fill".

@jasmussen jasmussen added [Type] Enhancement A suggestion for improvement. [Feature] Design Tools Tools that impact the appearance of blocks both to expand the number of tools and improve the experi labels Jun 24, 2024
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Nice! I think the label "Grow" works well here @jasmussen.

Do we also need to update the preview text that shows under the button. I'm not set up to run this yet so I can't tell if the copy Stretch to fill available space. is going to be updated or not. Perhaps it would make sense to say Grow to fill the available space to match the UI update better.

While we're at this. What do you think of updating "Fit" as well? The term fit isn't very clear. When I read it, it makes me think fit within the space. Taking inspiration from Figma and calling this Hug might work better. The corresponding descriptor in this case could read "Hug content".

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I don't have a strong opinion on the label, but translators who see it may not know how to translate it into their own language. This word, at least in Japanese, is translated into various words depending on the context. The word "Grow" is more abstract than the word "Fill".

Therefore, these options may need context. For example:

<ToggleGroupControlOption
	key="fit"
	value="fit"
	label={ _x( 'Fit', 'Block width in flex layout' ) }
/>
<ToggleGroupControlOption
	key="fill"
	value="fill"
	label={ _x( 'Grow', 'Block width in flex layout' ) }
/>
<ToggleGroupControlOption
	key="fixed"
	value="fixed"
	label={ _x( 'Fixed', 'Block width in flex layout' ) }
/>

I am also concerned that the mismatch between the label and value might cause some problems. cc @tellthemachines

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I am also concerned that the mismatch between the label and value might cause some problems. cc @tellthemachines

Label and value are independent so this shouldn't cause any problem.

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Regarding the label: In German, the term "Grow" typically describes a process rather than a static state. For a flex item, it might cause confusion as it implies an ongoing action rather than describing the end state of how it should look in the layout. "Fill" more intuitively conveys the idea of occupying available space and represents the end state more clearly.

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Good feedback, keep it coming and feel free to also suggest help text improvements.

Regarding the label: In German, the term "Grow" typically describes a process rather than a static state.

Is there a different word for "Grow" in German that would work better here? In Danish there are a couple that could work, and if we can provide sufficient context for translators, perhaps a good term could be found? Perhaps even the existing one? Mainly, this feels like one of those aspects where the term deserves care for each language.

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The difference in meaning is this: "Wachsen" (grow) implies a natural, organic process of increasing in size over time, similar to how a plant grows. "Erweitern" (extend), on the other hand, suggests a deliberate action to increase in size or capacity, which is more appropriate for a flex item that adjusts to fill available space. Providing sufficient context for translators would be good, yes.

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t-hamano commented Jul 1, 2024

I asked the chat GPT for help 😄

https://chatgpt.com/share/8db0b22f-b875-4c32-8fa5-ed1b61850bd0

They suggested the following English words, what do you think?

  1. Expand: The element expands to fill available space.
  2. Stretch: The element stretches to occupy the remaining space.
  3. Grow: The element grows to fill the extra space.
  4. Flexible: The element is flexible and adapts to the container's available space.
  5. Adaptable: The element adapts to take up any additional space.
  6. Fill: The element fills the leftover space.
  7. Extend: The element extends to occupy the remaining area.

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Thank you all for chiming in.

I've grown quite fond of "Grow" for english, and I'm wondering, would it be able to have that term, but provide clear enough instructions for translators that for example German might translate it to "Erweitern"?

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I interpret Grow more as Hug, as in it grows as the elements it contains increase, and it happens incrementally.

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I suspect this is highly subjective, so a bit tricky to find definitive consensus.

'Fill' is slightly more intuitive to me, but that's probably personal bias due to years of Figma use:

Screenshot 2024-07-03 at 09 13 23

I appreciate that 'Grow' aligns more with the underlying css property... the arguments for change are solid. On that basis renaming seems fine, so long as there are no strong objections, and hints are provided for translators.

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t-hamano commented Jul 3, 2024

I appreciate that 'Grow' aligns more with the underlying css property... the arguments for change are solid. On that basis renaming seems fine, so long as there are no strong objections, and hints are provided for translators.

I see, so should we decide to go with "Grow"?

To ship this PR, I think we need to resolve the conflicts and add translation context.

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I see, so should we decide to go with "Grow"?

There's been enough user feedback that "fill" is confusing, so yes, I think it's worth trying "grow" and see if people find it more intuitive.

To ship this PR, I think we need to resolve the conflicts and add translation context.

I'll take a stab in a minute! Thank you.

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Tried to add very specific translation contexts. Thank you for the code samples. Let me know if this works for you.

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LGTM! However, since English is not my native language, I would appreciate it if someone could give us feedback on whether the context strings are appropriate 😅

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Looks good to me too!

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Cool, let's try this! And I'm here for followups.

@jasmussen jasmussen merged commit cf45f45 into trunk Jul 3, 2024
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* Flex dimensions: Rename "Fill" to "Grow".

* Add translation context.
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