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Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 #679

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felixfontein opened this issue Jan 4, 2023 · 49 comments
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Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 #679

felixfontein opened this issue Jan 4, 2023 · 49 comments
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This tracks the Community Working Group meetings for Ansible. Continues the 2022 agenda in #645.

@felixfontein felixfontein added meeting_agenda contributor_experience https://github.com/ansible/community/wiki/Contributor%20Experience community labels Jan 4, 2023
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2023-01-04

Agenda #645 19:00:01)

Updates

(Undoing) removals of google.cloud and cyberark.pas 19:06:10)

  • google.cloud 1.1.2 has been released and the collection seems to be maintained again
  • cyberark.pas has not seen any update despite a promise that something will happen, though this could also just be because of winter vacation time

adding a requirement to collection requirements for maintainers to subscribe to the news-for-maintainers repo and have this info in README for future maintainers (andersson007___, 19:17:24)

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  • @mariolenz Create vote to re-add google.cloud to Ansible 8 when Ansible 7.2.0 has been released with a new google.cloud version

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-04/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-04-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-04/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-04-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-04/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-04-19.00.log.html

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2023-01-11

Agenda #679 18:59:56)

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Central Location for Release Blockers, and defining what they are (felixfontein, 19:20:10)

How to mark collections as unmaintained

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Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-11/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-11-18.59.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-11/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-11-18.59.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-11/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-11-18.59.log.html

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felixfontein commented Jan 18, 2023

2023-01-18

Agenda #679 19:00:22)

Updates

Roadmap for Ansible 8

Keep cyberark.pas in Ansible 8?

Definition and workflow for Ansible release blockers 19:17:26)

Improve Ansible PyPI README

Docsite related things

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Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-18/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-18-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-18/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-18-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-18/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-18-19.00.log.html

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2023-01-25

Agenda #679 19:00:21)

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Ansible 8 Roadmap planning

Can we create a way to see all 'easyfix' issues across ansible collections and projects? (felixfontein, 19:18:12)

Add Matrix room shield to ReadMe

Moving content from c.g/c.n to collections outside Ansible (felixfontein, 19:39:39)

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-25/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-25-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-25/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-25-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-01-25/ansible_community_meeting.2023-01-25-19.00.log.html

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2023-02-01

Agenda #679 19:00:12)

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Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-02-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-02-01-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-02-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-02-01-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-02-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-02-01-19.00.log.html

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felixfontein commented Feb 15, 2023

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2023-03-01

Agenda #679 19:01:04)

Updates

Semantic markup for Ansible documentation

How (felixfontein, 19:19:09)

Ansible Community Strategy 2023

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Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-01-19.01.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-01-19.01.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-01/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-01-19.01.log.html

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2023-03-08

Agenda #679 19:00:27)

Updates

open floor

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Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-08/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-08-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-08/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-08-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-08/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-08-19.00.log.html

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2023-03-15

Agenda #679 19:00:04)

Updates

Semantic markup

Community site

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Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-15/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-15-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-15/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-15-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-15/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-15-19.00.log.html

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felixfontein commented Mar 22, 2023

2023-03-22

Agenda #679 19:00:44)

Updates

Moving the community meeting to 18:00 UTC (felixfontein, 19:09:21)

Static site generator for the Ansible community web presence (felixfontein, 19:14:21)

open floor

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Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-22/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-22-19.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-22/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-22-19.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-22/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-22-19.00.log.html

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2023-03-29

Agenda #679 18:00:03)

Updates

Enforce collection tagging policy as a release blocker 18:08:44)

community.grafana and grafana.grafana merger CLA requirement (felixfontein, 18:33:46)

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  • @gotmax23 Update the release playbook to run antsibull validate-tags. Make the command fail the playbook on antsibull >= 7.X.0 (where X is the next version) and make it informational otherwise
  • @gotmax23 Add a list of collections to ignore errors for in ansible-build-data
  • @gotmax23 document the process
  • @gotmax23 submit draft PRs and wait for SC approval

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-29/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-29-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-29/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-29-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-03-29/ansible_community_meeting.2023-03-29-18.00.log.html

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2023-04-12

Updates

  • Ansible 8.0.0.a1 in the works today, sorry for the delay. Includes ansible-core 2.15.b2
  • new docsite is live at docs.ansible.com. Very few people choosing to go to the old site so seems a success!

community.grafana and grafana.grafana merger CLA requirement

Ansible roadmaps

not allowing any more CLAs

Ansible roadmaps

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Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-04-12/community_working_group.2023-04-12-18.01.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-04-12/community_working_group.2023-04-12-18.01.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-04-12/community_working_group.2023-04-12-18.01.log.html

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2023-05-10

Agenda #679 18:00:42)

Updates

ansible-build-data release docs

Enforce collection tagging policy as a release blocker 18:18:00)

Open Floor

Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-05-10/ansible_community_meeting.2023-05-10-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-05-10/ansible_community_meeting.2023-05-10-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-05-10/ansible_community_meeting.2023-05-10-18.00.log.html

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gotmax23 commented May 17, 2023

2023-05-10

Agenda #679

Updates

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2023-05-24

Agenda #679 18:00:04)

Updates

Ansible 9 roadmap

open floor

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Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-05-24/ansible_community_meeting.2023-05-24-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-05-24/ansible_community_meeting.2023-05-24-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-05-24/ansible_community_meeting.2023-05-24-18.00.log.html

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2023-06-14

making community docs a separate project from ansible/ansible

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Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-06-14/community_working_group.2023-06-14-18.07.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-06-14/community_working_group.2023-06-14-18.07.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-06-14/community_working_group.2023-06-14-18.07.log.html

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felixfontein commented Jun 28, 2023

2023-06-28

Agenda #679 18:00:07)

Updates

Having only single Ansible release in one day 18:07:24)

Making community docs a separate project to ansible/ansible (felixfontein, 18:21:34)

GitHub Actions CI contention

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Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-06-28/ansible_community_meeting.2023-06-28-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-06-28/ansible_community_meeting.2023-06-28-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-06-28/ansible_community_meeting.2023-06-28-18.00.log.html

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2023-07-12

Agenda #679 18:00:00)

Updates

  • antsibull-docs 2.3.0 has been released with improved rendering and linting of semantic markup!
  • the docs/ directory of the ansible/ansible repository has been moved to a separate repository, ansible/ansible-documentation

Making community docs a separate project to ansible/ansible (felixfontein, 18:11:59)

Update Python requirements for collections included in Ansible (felixfontein, 18:32:57)

Open Floor

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Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-07-12/ansible_community_meeting.2023-07-12-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-07-12/ansible_community_meeting.2023-07-12-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-07-12/ansible_community_meeting.2023-07-12-18.00.log.html

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gotmax23 commented Aug 9, 2023

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2023-08-16

Agenda #679 18:00:01)

Updates

Update Python requirements for collections included in Ansible (felixfontein, 18:10:57)

Which/how many versions of ansible(-base|-core) should a collection support? Proposal for community.general (felixfontein, 18:27:51)

Community EE

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Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-08-16/ansible_community_meeting.2023-08-16-18.00.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-08-16/ansible_community_meeting.2023-08-16-18.00.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-08-16/ansible_community_meeting.2023-08-16-18.00.log.html

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2023-08-23

Hello world

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Logs

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-08-23/ansible_community_meeting.2023-08-23-18.02.html
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-08-23/ansible_community_meeting.2023-08-23-18.02.txt
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-community/2023-08-23/ansible_community_meeting.2023-08-23-18.02.log.html

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2028-08-30

For today's meeting we were using the Matrix meeting bot. It's result can be found here: https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-08-30-1801/218

The bot does not yet support topics or chairing, and we didn't talk about much, so the log is pretty short:

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2023-08-30 18:01:11 Felix Fontein ^info Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 · Issue #679 · ansible/community · GitHub / Topics: GitHub - ansible-community/community-topics: Discussions for Ansible Meetings
2023-08-30 18:03:53 cybette ^info The community is welcome to discuss the Teams: community building blocks topic!
2023-08-30 18:04:04 cybette ^info Let’s brainstorm our (Ansible community’s) mission statement! Please share your thoughts in the associated topic!

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2023-09-06

https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-09-06-1817/283

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2023-09-06 18:00:25 Felix Fontein ^info Agenda: Community Working Group Meeting Agenda 2023 · Issue #679 · ansible/community · GitHub / Topics: GitHub - ansible-community/community-topics: Discussions for Ansible Meetings
2023-09-06 18:01:20 andersson007_ ^info please share your thoughts on the community-ee topic on Forum
2023-09-06 18:02:40 Felix Fontein ^info the ansible-core 2.16 feature freeze is in less than two weeks
2023-09-06 18:03:00 cybette ^info Ansible Community Day in Berlin is in 2 weeks! (Sept 20). Register now to reserve your spot: https://ansible-community-day-berlin-2023.eventbrite.com/
2023-09-06 18:04:49 cybette ^info Ansible Contributor Summit will be in Durham (+ online) on October 19. Check out the info and propose topics you’d like to discuss here: Contributor Summit 2023.10 - planning doc - HackMD
2023-09-06 18:06:13 gotmax23 ^info How should Galaxy NG refer to roles · Issue #272 · ansible-community/community-topics · GitHub
2023-09-06 18:36:54 Felix Fontein ^info Community EE · Issue #267 · ansible-community/community-topics · GitHub / Community Execution Environment Image: content and location

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2023-09-20

https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-09-20-1822/969

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2023-09-27

https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-09-27-1814/1156

INFO: Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:01:33)
INFO: New release beta: ansible-core 2.16.0b1 https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-devel/c/Nds82CwETug (@cybette:ansible.im, 18:02:35)
INFO: Ansible Galaxy is planned to switch to the new galaxy_ng codebase on September 30th, i.e. this Saturday (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:03:08)
INFO: Ansible 9.0.0a1 will likely be released tomorrow. The release got delayed due to a delayed ansible-core 2.16.0b1 release and the need for collection constraints. (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:04:12)
INFO: antsibull-docs 2.4.0 got released with a lot of new features and bugfixes. (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:05:11)
INFO: Topic: where should votes happen? (https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/273) (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:14:52)

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2023-10-04

https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-10-04-1811/1411

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INFO: Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:00:34)
TOPIC: Updates (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:00:38)
    INFO: Ansible Galaxy has been migrated to the galaxy_ng codebase last Saturday (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:03:31)
    INFO: There are some issues with missing content after the galaxy_ng migration that are blocking ansible package releases. They are tracked in https://issues.redhat.com/browse/AAH-2738. (@gotmax:matrix.org, 18:04:02)
    INFO: ansible-core devel dropped support for Python 2.7 and 3.6 on the controller. It also removed some OS Docker images and VMs from ansible-test, see https://github.com/ansible-collections/news-for-maintainers/issues/60 for details (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:08:53)
TOPIC: Allow votes to be conducted in the forum (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:16:48)
    LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/273 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:16:52)
    HALP: (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:44:21)
    HALP: This is a ^halp test. (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:44:57)
    HALP: (@maxamillion:one.ems.host, 18:45:18)
TOPIC: Open Floor (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:46:50)
    AGREED: hmm I might have added some ^agreed or so before... well, too late, I don't think there's an !undo :) (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:47:21)

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2013-10-18

https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-10-18-1850/1784

INFO: Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:00:59)
TOPIC: Updates (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:01:02)
    INFO: ansible-core 2.16.0rc1 and Ansible 9.0.0a3 have been released (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:02:58)

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2023-10-25

https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-10-25-1828/1961

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INFO: Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:00:54)
TOPIC: Updates (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:01:00)
TOPIC: Proposal: allow votes to be conducted in the forum (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:06:41)
    LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/273 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:06:58)
    LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/pull/277 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:07:02)
TOPIC: Open Floor (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:19:13)
    INFO: A vote on whether votes and discussions should be moved from github.com/ansible-community/community-topics to the Ansible forum happens in https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/discussions/279 (discussion: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/273) (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:53:44)
TOPIC: Open Floor (@gotmax:matrix.org, 18:54:48)

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2023-11-01

https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-11-01-1815/2083/1

INFO: Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:00:29)
TOPIC: Updates (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:00:34)
    INFO: community.general 8.0.0 has been released to be included in next week's Ansible 9.0.0b1 (feature freeze), potentially with another bugfix release next week (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 18:01:51)
TOPIC: allow votes to be conducted in the forum #273 (@gotmax:matrix.org, 18:08:16)
    LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics/issues/273 (@gotmax:matrix.org, 18:08:21)
TOPIC: Open Floor (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:00:46)

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2023-11-08

https://forum.ansible.com/t/2242

INFO: Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:02:00)
TOPIC: Updates (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:02:07)
    INFO: Ansible 8.6.0 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-project/c/ZlawQumvUrQ/m/EvCtjtMdAAAJ (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:02:36)
    INFO: Ansible 9.0.0b1 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-project/c/voo5tLTvy0A - this is the 9.0.0 Feature Freeze! (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:02:54)
    INFO: Ansible 8.6.0 has been released: https://groups.google.com/g/ansible-project/c/ZlawQumvUrQ (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:03:06)
    INFO: The 8.6.0 and 9.0.0b1 releases were the first Ansible releases that were done by community members and not by Red Hat employees 🎉 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:04:06)
    INFO: Collection maintainers's feedback will be much appreciated on [the PR](https://github.com/ansible/ansible-documentation/pull/775) aiming to improve the collection developer experience by adding a general overview of the path to the Developing collections guide. (@cybette:ansible.im, 19:07:29)
    INFO: New Artwork for Matrix Rooms - check out the forum post and share your thoughts: https://forum.ansible.com/t/new-icon-artwork-for-our-matrix-rooms-and-possibly-for-other-things/2207 (@cybette:ansible.im, 19:10:15)
    INFO: We're welcoming the Open Source Infrastructure automation community again right after Fosdem for Config Management Camp in Ghent 5-7 February 2024. CfP is now open! https://cfp.cfgmgmtcamp.org/2024/cfp (@orandon:ansible.im, 19:10:49)
    INFO: Several events with CFPs due this month, check them out in the Ansible Community Forum! https://forum.ansible.com/tags/c/events/8/cfp (@cybette:ansible.im, 19:12:01)
    INFO: Discuss the process for [requesting a Galaxy Namespace](https://forum.ansible.com/t/galaxy-namespace-request/2240) and how to evolve it. Share your opinion in the forum topic. (@leo:ansible.im, 19:12:16)
TOPIC: Open Floor (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:26:33)

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2023-11-15

https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-11-15-1937/2408

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INFO: Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:00:50)
TOPIC: Updates (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:00:53)
    INFO: Ansible 9.0.0rc1 has been released (https://forum.ansible.com/t/release-announcement-ansible-community-package-9-0-0rc1-pre-release/2375). If no serious bug report is filed until this Friday (2023-11-17), 9.0.0 GA will be released next week (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:02:07)
    INFO: There is an open PR to document the Ansible X.Y.0 release process: https://github.com/ansible-community/ansible-build-data/pull/325 (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:03:14)
TOPIC: Improving Ansible build to avoid broken releases (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:15:28)
    ACTION: gotmax23 to open a forum post to discuss further about running sanity tests across all collections in the ansible package and which specific tests to run (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:35:58)
    ACTION: gotmax23 to keep working on https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/556 and other related antsibull code changes to enable this (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:36:24)
    INFO: Consider running import, compile, validate-modules, and ansible-doc (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:37:08)
    INFO: Probably avoid running expensive and cosmetic tests like pylint (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:37:44)
    INFO: Also consider requiring yamllint (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:38:00)
TOPIC: Community meeting agenda (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:41:55)
    LINK: https://forum.ansible.com/t/stop-using-the-gh-com-ansible-community-meeting-agenda-for-the-community-wg-meeting/2243/7 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:41:58)
    INFO: I think we haven't mentioned this here, so: [ansible-readme.rst: mention the ansible-build-data issue tracker](https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull/pull/554). Maybe you should have at look at this. (@mariolenz:matrix.org, 20:01:12)
TOPIC: open floor (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 20:01:31)
    INFO: The IRC-matrix relaybot is currently offline, and might be back tomorrow - assuming that Libera.Chat hasn't banned it permanently (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 20:02:07)

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2023-11-22

https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-11-22-1926/2526

INFO: Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:00:42)
TOPIC: Updates (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:00:45)
    INFO: The IRC <-> Matrix relay is back! Or at least temporarily... (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:01:02)
    INFO: Ansible 9.0.0 and 9.0.1 have been released (https://forum.ansible.com/t/release-announcement-ansible-community-package-9-0-0/2492, https://forum.ansible.com/t/release-announcement-ansible-community-package-9-0-1/2500) (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:01:56)
    INFO: Ansible 9.0.0 has been yanked after it turned out that the Python support indication wasn't complete, and thus not used by older (but not that old) pip versions; 9.0.1 fixes this (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:03:03)
TOPIC: Do we want to allow group pings for collection maintainers? (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:12:12)
    LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/ansible-build-data/pull/333 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:12:18)
    LINK: https://github.com/ansible-community/ansible-build-data/pull/334 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:12:22)
TOPIC: Release schedule for `ansible` during the holiday season (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:21:21)
    LINK: https://forum.ansible.com/t/release-schedule-for-holiday-releases/2471 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:21:30)
TOPIC: Stop using the gh.com/ansible/community meeting agenda (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:39:53)
    LINK: https://forum.ansible.com/t/stop-using-the-gh-com-ansible-community-meeting-agenda-for-the-community-wg-meeting/2243 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:39:57)

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2023-11-29

https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-11-29-1933/2636

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INFO: Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:00:50)
TOPIC: Updates (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:00:56)
    INFO: We have two open votes in the forum: https://forum.ansible.com/t/vote-ends-on-2023-12-04-release-schedule-for-holiday-releases/2471/22 and https://forum.ansible.com/t/vote-ends-on-2023-12-05-stop-using-the-gh-com-ansible-community-meeting-agenda-for-the-community-wg-meeting/2243/13 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:01:44)
    INFO: Felix is looking on feedback for a concrete proposal for a new helper collection for filtering output of inventory plugins: https://forum.ansible.com/t/place-for-common-shared-code-for-collections/1721/17 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:03:17)
TOPIC: Testing collections within the ansible package (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:07:05)
    LINK: https://forum.ansible.com/t/testing-collections-within-the-ansible-package/2455 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:07:08)
    LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/80024 (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:16:45)
    INFO: The current `antsibull-build sanity-tests` implementation loops over the collections and writes out a YAML file with results (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:18:55)
    ACTION: gotmax23 to include ansible-test version in sanity test issues (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:31:36)
TOPIC: Maintain Ansible 9 for longer than 6 months (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:32:38)
    LINK: https://forum.ansible.com/t/maintain-ansible-9-for-longer-than-6-months/2574 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:32:41)
    INFO: We are considering cutting extending maintenance of Ansible 9 from 6 months to 1 year. For the whole cycle, we'd include collection feature releases but not breaking changes (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:50:13)
    INFO: consider referring to this as `extended release` to avoid issues with LTS and other terms (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:56:48)
TOPIC: Open floor (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:57:00)
    INFO: Consider core release cycles and how frequently to cut ansible 9 releases (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:57:03)
    INFO: Consider docs version switcher (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:57:09)
    INFO: we will archive ansible/community on Jan 5th (@samccann:ansible.im, 19:57:11)
    INFO: the shared ics calendar for all WG meetings has move to https://github.com/ansible-community/meetings/. Update your calendars accordingly (@samccann:ansible.im, 19:57:38)

Meeting ended at 2023-11-29 20:01:07

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Please note that this issue will only be used until the end of this year (2023). From then on, meeting logs will only be published in the Ansible forum under https://forum.ansible.com/tags/c/workflow/meetbot/16/community-wg.

(This has been decided in https://forum.ansible.com/t/vote-ends-on-2023-12-05-stop-using-the-gh-com-ansible-community-meeting-agenda-for-the-community-wg-meeting/2243/11.)

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2023-12-06

https://forum.ansible.com/t/meeting-log-ansible-community-working-group-2023-12-06-1916/2773

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INFO: Agenda: https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/679 / Topics: https://github.com/ansible-community/community-topics (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:00:31)
TOPIC: Updates (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:00:35)
    INFO: Ansible 9.1.0 has been released: https://forum.ansible.com/t/release-announcement-ansible-community-package-9-1-0/2764 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:00:58)
    INFO: Ansible 8.7.0 has been released: https://forum.ansible.com/t/release-announcement-ansible-community-package-8-7-0/2770 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:01:06)
    INFO: The first two community/SC votes were completed in the Ansible forum! (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:01:32)
    INFO: The Ansible release schedule is now more tightly aligned to the ansible-core release schedule. This means that during the upcoming holiday season there will be no release until the end of January: https://forum.ansible.com/t/vote-ended-on-2023-12-04-release-schedule-for-holiday-releases/2471/33 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:02:48)
    INFO: The meeting notes for this meeting will be posted only in the forum and no longer on GitHub from January 2024 on: https://forum.ansible.com/t/vote-ended-on-2023-12-05-stop-using-the-gh-com-ansible-community-meeting-agenda-for-the-community-wg-meeting/2243/17 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:03:09)
TOPIC: Collection maintainer information for collections included in Ansible (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:08:49)
    LINK: https://forum.ansible.com/t/collection-maintainer-information-for-collections-included-in-ansible/2562 (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:09:00)
TOPIC: Open Floor (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:45:04)

Meeting ended at 2023-12-06 20:02:54

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Meeting started by @gotmax:matrix.org at 2023-12-20 19:02:18

Meeting summary

  1. TOPIC: Salutations (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:02:46)
    1. INFO: Community WG topics: https://forum.ansible.com/tag/community-wg (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:04:35)
    2. INFO: The netapp.storagegrid 1 collection looks unmaintained / abandoned. See https://forum.ansible.com/t/unmaintained-collection-netapp-storagegrid/2811/. (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:05:18)
    3. INFO: The netapp.storagegrid collection looks unmaintained / abandoned. See https://forum.ansible.com/t/unmaintained-collection-netapp-storagegrid/2811/. (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:05:26)
    4. INFO: The inspur.sm collection looks unmaintained / abandoned. See https://forum.ansible.com/t/unmaintained-collection-inspur-sm/2854. (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:05:54)
  2. TOPIC: ansible-build-data CI (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:08:10)
    1. LINK: https://github.com/Run CI at least once weekly ansible-community/ansible-build-data#345 (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:08:15)
  3. TOPIC: Testing collections within the ansible package (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:11:14)
    1. LINK: https://forum.ansible.com/t/testing-collections-within-the-ansible-package/2455/15 (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:13:32)
    2. ACTION: File an issue about removing the fortinet collections from ansible (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:20:04)
    3. ACTION: Create a forum post about removing the fortinet collections from ansible (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:20:18)
    4. ACTION: gotmax23 to wait for a bit more feedback and then starting filing issues (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:26:49)
    5. ACTION: gotmax23 to regenerate the rendered issues in https://github.com/ansible-community/package-test-results (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:28:35)
  4. TOPIC: Open Floor (@gotmax:matrix.org, 19:29:08)
    1. INFO: https://github.com/[WIP] Allow to specify module/plugin requirements in a machine-readable way ansible-collections/community.general#7720 is a prototype for a plugin that allows to determine which dependencies to install for a plugin/module (@felixfontein:matrix.org, 19:30:14)


Meeting ended at 2023-12-20 19:40:34

Action items

  1. File an issue about removing the fortinet collections from ansible
  2. Create a forum post about removing the fortinet collections from ansible
  3. gotmax23 to wait for a bit more feedback and then starting filing issues
  4. gotmax23 to regenerate the rendered issues in https://github.com/ansible-community/package-test-results


People present (lines said)

  1. @gotmax:matrix.org (56)
  2. @felixfontein:matrix.org (36)
  3. @anwesha:ansible.im (7)
  4. @RemindBot:ansible.im (2)
  5. @ansibot:ansible.im (2)


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