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Rebranding: Poodle #20
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Posted on Peepeth about the Poodle project: https://peepeth.com/daniellmesquita/peeps/QmbGkZeXCQZjf75go5MTN65iU2achrs7qLJvLkETZa1ymr |
But I don't know much about IPFS and Dat |
I could help you to make it work on Dat, while I'm also learning about IPFS. |
Is there any existing search engine on IPFS and Dat.We could just mix their search result like DuckDuckGo. |
Makes sense, and using YaCy will make that possible: |
@shortcutme, what do you think about supporting YaCy on ZeroNet? Like I've suggested about SharedSearch plugin. |
YaCy is just a distributed web spider,isn't it? |
For Dat, there is no search engine yet (then Poodle will be very handy). |
Yes, and it is amazing. |
It's already on ZeroNet. Then, please share here the dat URL. |
I can't use beaker browser.It's not working in China maybe. But IPFS works,just consumes too much CPU.And I shutdown it |
Could I pull request with a rebrand for Horizon? And upload/maintain it on Dat? |
Did you tried to limit the peers you're connected to? Reference: ipfs/kubo#2945, ipfs/kubo#4531, ipfs/kubo#3318 |
Is your Internet connection slow? You could report that on Beaker's repo. |
Anyway, you can still choose the ZN's Horizon folder and make it an Dat site, to work on both networks. |
I think we can share the technology, but we should not make it one brand.It's not necessary. |
Compatibility doesn't matter. The idea is not just to show Dat results on ZeroNet (while offering download link for Dat/Beaker), but also showing ZeroNet results on Dat (and offering download link for ZeroNet). The same with IPFS (we could mix search results using the engine of IPFS-Search, being an beauty and hybrid frontend for that). |
@blurHY some news about ZN working on your country? Does Horizon uses pure JS to show search results? |
@DaniellMesquita I'm writing the third version of HorizonSpider and going to build a centralized Horizon search. Do you want to join us? |
Mkg is already creating a JS version of ZN, and probably will join you. And I can join supporting with suggestions and designs. The search can be hybrid, on ZeroNet and with a centralized version for clearnet results. |
Hybird what ? |
Horizon, or Poodle; it can be hybrid, working on both ZeroNet and clearnet |
Decentralized search site ?
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We planned to build a new zeronet on the top of ipfs instead. |
Please send an repo so we create an issue for discuss that |
And also centralized (clearnet), so it is hybrid |
Full-decentralized may be not possible. |
I'm creating ZeroNet+, which includes ZeroNet+Dat+IPFS. Users could have multiple identities: Dat's own, ZeroNet BTC identy, IPFS' ETH, etc.
IPFS haves OrbitDB, which is decentralized and scalable for a search engine. Do you use Riot.im? |
The next project I will work on is the ZeroNet over IPFS. |
this is 404 page atm. What bother me on ZN is duplicate files (one in normal dir, and up to several others in zeronet subdirectories), if ZN+IPFS will solve this (at least getting rid of duplicities in "zeronet dir"), i would use it and report issues of it. Ofcourse ZN+IPFS should be compatible with main ZN functions so one can browse existing media sites like K0pykate. |
IPFS solves it |
@blurHY |
Search engine will also be planned when the new network grows bigger. AFAIK, there're only 6000 downloadable sites on zeronet. So it is not meaningful.
IPFS already has a search engine called ipfs-search
Dat network is obviously smaller than zeronet
And the name poodle is a dog, which isn't good in China.
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I understand you need to focus on ZN+IPFS instead of your search engine.
We're discussing about it, but on Poodle search rebranding issue.
I'll keep the Poodle search project (outside of this search engine), and you're welcome to create a ZN version of Poodle search.
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Hello there, does anyone know something about the current status of the search-engine? Thanks in advance |
Do you use Beaker? |
No, currently this search engine is abandoned, because a centralized search engine won't help the decentralized web much. Horizon uses general method to crawl sites, so it's not the best solution on DHT powered networks. I'm considering a decentralized search engine on IPZN, incentived with blockchain. |
Above, the icon to show on start page.
Logotype to show on header when searching:
Brand icon/favicon:
The rebranding doesn't only consists on new name/font/logotype/icon, but also a new design and a new concept: working also outside ZeroNet.
My idea is that Poodle could also work on Dat and IPFS, and provide results for their sites.
When showing results of Dat/IPFS/ZeroNet, when not on these networks, show an download link.
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