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Implements hourly_supply_electricity_from_renewables
and hourly_share_electricity_from_renewables
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hourly_supply_electricity_from_renewable
and hourly_share_electricity_from_renewables
hourly_supply_electricity_from_renewables
and hourly_share_electricity_from_renewables
Notifying @noracato and @marliekeverweij. We want to use such a curve in https://github.com/ZEnMo/Holon-webapp, for now I will just implement this query at our side. |
Yes, this is the correct implementation. The only risk is in the supply query... if we add new carriers, updating that query could easily be forgotten. But cannot think of another way!
Almost, only waste is not renewable at all times. It's a mix of biogenic & non-biogenic, so we have to do the same trick as for the power plants using network gas: spllitting up the queries into electricity from green gas and electricity from natural gas. I could pick this up. What is the urgency of this improvement?
Good question. In the ETM we consider import as not renewable because on a yearly basis there are always emissions related and we do not have information about the renewable fraction per hour.
I do not think we have to deal with this, as we are looking at the electricity production. What were your thoughts on this? |
Thanks for the swift reply @marliekeverweij!
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I think that for our current use case it is fair enough to approximate it without tracking curtailment, considering that it would be more complicated to properly implement that. However, I think it would be right to add a disclaimer (comment in the Perhaps we should also add a comment that disclaims the dependency on manually adding all renewable energy carriers in the summing query. |
Actually, thinking about this again, it might not hold due to the copper plate approach in the ETM? The reason I was thinking of simultaneous curtailment and production was due to local net contraints (e.g. a solar plant is outputting power but is being curtailed because of local (LV, MV) network constraints. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that can't happen in the ETM? Then; curtailment would only occur when the production out sizes the demand. This impacts the consumption of renewable energy (since not all is consumed because a part is curtailed) but does not affect the share of renewable energy, it would remain at 100% renewable. The only exception I can think of is that of must-run energy sources. What is the 'merit' or curtailment? Could it occur that volatile renewables are curtailed in favor of keeping must-run sources running? In that case, the share of renewables would be overestimated because of curtailment. |
True! All volatile producers can deliver their production to the net. However, you can do curtailment / overplanting in the ETM: install more capacity than the grid connection (see here). This does not influence the renewability fraction as this type of curtailment is already subtracted from production.
Yes.
Volatile producers and must-run producers both deliver all their electricity to the net. If the total production exceeds total demand, then curtailment takes place; we sometimes call this type of curtailment last-resort curtailment. I am not sure if this should impact the renewability fraction of produced electricity.. |
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@mabijkerk Previously I talked with @marliekeverweij about this issue. Is it still something you would like to implement? I could try to update the PR? |
Thanks for notifying me about this PR @thesethtruth. I can pick this up, but I do have two questions: 1. Imports of electricity
2. Waste
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Right, that makes sense!
Correct. If you can point me in the right direction I might be able to do this myself. (an example perhaps?) |
I have added two queries to After updating the waste query and changing |
Two final notes on this:
We may have to look into it some more and see if we can come up with a more robust solution. In the meantime I have used the following custom query to retrieve hardcoded results from the KEV scenario: DIVIDE_CURVES(
SUM_CURVES(
Q(hourly_supply_electricity_from_biogas),
Q(hourly_supply_electricity_from_biomass),
Q(hourly_supply_electricity_from_geothermal),
Q(hourly_supply_electricity_from_greengas),
Q(hourly_supply_electricity_from_hydro),
Q(hourly_supply_electricity_from_hydrogen),
Q(hourly_supply_electricity_from_solar),
Q(hourly_supply_electricity_from_uranium),
Q(hourly_supply_electricity_from_biogenic_waste),
Q(hourly_supply_electricity_from_wind)
),
Q(hourly_total_electricity_production)
) |
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I'm sure at some point we'll find the time to implement this! |
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To discuss:
sustainability_share
?To implement: