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| 20:08:55 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #dpvcg | ||
| 20:09:03 <harsh> Scribe: harsh | ||
| 20:09:10 <harsh> Meeting: DPVCG Meeting Call | ||
| 20:09:13 <harsh> Chair: harsh | ||
| 20:09:23 <harsh> Present: harsh, delaram, ted georg, beatriz | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> Regrets: iain, tytti | ||
| 20:09:37 <harsh> Date: 21 FEB 2024 | ||
| 20:09:50 <harsh> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/31f00434-f01b-431d-a9d9-4ef690dd7c6d/20240221T150000/ | ||
| 20:09:57 <harsh> Meeting minutes: https://w3id.org/dpv/meetings | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> purl for this meeting: https://w3id.org/dpv/meetings/meeting-2024-02-21 | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> Topic: Age Verification | ||
| 20:10:04 <ghurlbot> https://github.com/w3c/dpv/issues/128 -> Issue 128 Add dpv:AgeVerification as a purpose concept (by besteves4) | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> accepted concept | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> Topic: GDPR Rights Justifications | ||
| 20:10:04 <ghurlbot> https://github.com/w3c/dpv/issues/63 -> Issue 63 Add Right Non-fulfilment Justifications for GDPR’s rights (by besteves4) | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> beatriz: okay with the structure, but more rights and justifications - discussion on whether/how we model them. | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> beatriz: (email FEB-16) going through the mentioned rights to see justifications, going through GDPR for more justifications. Article 34 - some justifications there as well for Communication of a personal data breach to the data subject. Article 23 - right to be informed about restrictions. Article 27. We don't have anything from Article 78 and 79 - judicial rememdies. Article 22-3 “the right to obtain human intervention on the part of the controller, to express his or her point of view and to contest the decision. | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> georg: Article 34(3) has justifications for why the breach was not communicated. These are justifications used in compliance but do not need to be communicated. So we should | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> georg: Article 23(3-h) - what is the justification here? | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> beatriz: Should we model the 'right' mentioned here? | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> \ discussion - no, this is a right as in the implementing act in national law | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> beatriz: Adding Art. 77-79 as 3 three additional rights to GDPR extension. | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> georg: Art.22.3 “the right to obtain human intervention on the part of the controller, to express his or her point of view and to contest the decision”? | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> harsh: 22-1 is the right, 22-3 refers to the same right | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> georg: 22-2 is the three justifications for 22-1 | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> harsh: 22-3 and 22-4 are specific restrictions on the justifications in 22-2, so we don't necessarily need them as separate justifications - we can wait for case law and AG opinions to evaluate our interpreations are correct before we model them e.g. 22-4 can be justifications for use of special categories | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> Topic: AI Act | ||
| 20:10:04 <ghurlbot> https://github.com/w3c/dpv/issues/106 -> Issue 106 Propose concepts from the AI Act (by coolharsh55) | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> delaram: these are concepts from Article 3, the rest of the Act is to be modeled | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> georg: post from Dr. Laura who is Senior Policy Advisor at EU Parliament comparing AI Act and GDPR in terms of no of articles and recitals https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dr-laura-caroli-0a96a8a_aiact-activity-7166016973645037568-pA4A?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> delaram: definitions are not expected to change, clause numbering may change. Working on AIRO and VAIR at the moment, to be added here (AI Act extension) once that is done. | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> harsh: where do we put them in DPV vocabularies? How do we proceed? Do we take AI Act? Or go through specific topics e.g. putting AI in deployment? | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> delaram: would be better to look at all related concepts together in one place | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> beatriz: does AI system go in tech? | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> delaram: yes, the general concept will go in tech and the AI Act specific definition will go into the AI Act extension | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> harsh: interested in Annex III high-risk clause analysis, and connecting it with GDPR's DPIA. Tytti is also doing this kind of work and would be interested in this. | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> Topic: Next Meeting | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> \ Next meeting will be in 1 week, on WED FEB-28 15:00 WET / 16:00 CET. | ||
| 20:10:04 <harsh> \ Topics for discussion are updates on DPV v2, github repo and issues, rights exercise, discussion on AI Act, and Tech/AI vocabulary. |
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| <dt>Present</dt><dd>beatriz, delaram, harsh, ted georg</dd> | ||
| <dt>Regrets</dt><dd>iain, tytti</dd> | ||
| <dt>Chair</dt><dd>harsh</dd> | ||
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| <li><a href="#t01">Age Verification</a></li> | ||
| <li><a href="#t02">GDPR Rights Justifications</a></li> | ||
| <li><a href="#t03">AI Act</a></li> | ||
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| <section><p id=x008 class=summary>Meeting minutes: <a href="https://w3id.org/dpv/meetings">https://<wbr>w3id.org/<wbr>dpv/<wbr>meetings</a></p> | ||
| <p id=x009 class=summary>purl for this meeting: <a href="https://w3id.org/dpv/meetings/meeting-2024-02-21">https://<wbr>w3id.org/<wbr>dpv/<wbr>meetings/<wbr>meeting-2024-02-21</a></p> | ||
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| <h3 id=t01>Age Verification</h3> | ||
| <p id=x011 class=bot><cite><ghurlbot></cite> <strong><a href="https://github.com/w3c/dpv/issues/128">Issue 128</a></strong> Add dpv:AgeVerification as a purpose concept (by besteves4)</p> | ||
| <p id=x012 class=summary>accepted concept</p> | ||
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| <h3 id=t02>GDPR Rights Justifications</h3> | ||
| <p id=x014 class=bot><cite><ghurlbot></cite> <strong><a href="https://github.com/w3c/dpv/issues/63">Issue 63</a></strong> Add Right Non-fulfilment Justifications for GDPR’s rights (by besteves4)</p> | ||
| <p id=x015 class="phone s01"><cite>beatriz:</cite> okay with the structure, but more rights and justifications - discussion on whether/how we model them.</p> | ||
| <p id=x016 class="phone s01"><cite>beatriz:</cite> (email FEB-16) going through the mentioned rights to see justifications, going through GDPR for more justifications. Article 34 - some justifications there as well for Communication of a personal data breach to the data subject. Article 23 - right to be informed about restrictions. Article 27. We don't have anything from Article 78 and 79 - judicial rememdies. Article 22-3 “the right to obtain human intervention on the part of the controller, to express his or her point of view and to contest the decision.</p> | ||
| <p id=x017 class="phone s02"><cite>georg:</cite> Article 34(3) has justifications for why the breach was not communicated. These are justifications used in compliance but do not need to be communicated. So we should </p> | ||
| <p id=x018 class="phone s02"><cite>georg:</cite> Article 23(3-h) - what is the justification here? </p> | ||
| <p id=x019 class="phone s01"><cite>beatriz:</cite> Should we model the 'right' mentioned here?</p> | ||
| <p id=x020 class=summary> discussion - no, this is a right as in the implementing act in national law</p> | ||
| <p id=x021 class="phone s01"><cite>beatriz:</cite> Adding Art. 77-79 as 3 three additional rights to GDPR extension. </p> | ||
| <p id=x022 class="phone s02"><cite>georg:</cite> Art.22.3 “the right to obtain human intervention on the part of the controller, to express his or her point of view and to contest the decision”? </p> | ||
| <p id=x023 class="phone s03"><cite>harsh:</cite> 22-1 is the right, 22-3 refers to the same right</p> | ||
| <p id=x024 class="phone s02"><cite>georg:</cite> 22-2 is the three justifications for 22-1</p> | ||
| <p id=x025 class="phone s03"><cite>harsh:</cite> 22-3 and 22-4 are specific restrictions on the justifications in 22-2, so we don't necessarily need them as separate justifications - we can wait for case law and AG opinions to evaluate our interpreations are correct before we model them e.g. 22-4 can be justifications for use of special categories</p> | ||
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| <h3 id=t03>AI Act</h3> | ||
| <p id=x027 class=bot><cite><ghurlbot></cite> <strong><a href="https://github.com/w3c/dpv/issues/106">Issue 106</a></strong> Propose concepts from the AI Act (by coolharsh55)</p> | ||
| <p id=x028 class="phone s04"><cite>delaram:</cite> these are concepts from Article 3, the rest of the Act is to be modeled </p> | ||
| <p id=x029 class="phone s02"><cite>georg:</cite> post from Dr. Laura who is Senior Policy Advisor at EU Parliament comparing AI Act and GDPR in terms of no of articles and recitals <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dr-laura-caroli-0a96a8a_aiact-activity-7166016973645037568-pA4A?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop">https://<wbr>www.linkedin.com/<wbr>posts/<wbr>dr-laura-caroli-0a96a8a_aiact-activity-7166016973645037568-pA4A?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop</a></p> | ||
| <p id=x030 class="phone s04"><cite>delaram:</cite> definitions are not expected to change, clause numbering may change. Working on AIRO and VAIR at the moment, to be added here (AI Act extension) once that is done.</p> | ||
| <p id=x031 class="phone s03"><cite>harsh:</cite> where do we put them in DPV vocabularies? How do we proceed? Do we take AI Act? Or go through specific topics e.g. putting AI in deployment?</p> | ||
| <p id=x032 class="phone s04"><cite>delaram:</cite> would be better to look at all related concepts together in one place</p> | ||
| <p id=x033 class="phone s01"><cite>beatriz:</cite> does AI system go in tech?</p> | ||
| <p id=x034 class="phone s04"><cite>delaram:</cite> yes, the general concept will go in tech and the AI Act specific definition will go into the AI Act extension</p> | ||
| <p id=x035 class="phone s03"><cite>harsh:</cite> interested in Annex III high-risk clause analysis, and connecting it with GDPR's DPIA. Tytti is also doing this kind of work and would be interested in this.</p> | ||
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| <h3 id=t04>Next Meeting</h3> | ||
| <p id=x037 class=summary> Next meeting will be in 1 week, on WED FEB-28 15:00 WET / 16:00 CET.</p> | ||
| <p id=x038 class=summary> Topics for discussion are updates on DPV v2, github repo and issues, rights exercise, discussion on AI Act, and Tech/AI vocabulary.</p> | ||
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