brave browser?

[ghost]

When will brave browser be added to the testing list?

[Fyrd]

Brave uses the Chromium rendering engine, so support should match the latest Chrome. No plans on including it separately.

[mojoaxel]

Brave uses electron which e.g. does not support window.prompt.
Still not sure if it make sense to track it Brave separately because of this.

[briansmith]

Brave uses the Chromium rendering engine, so support should match the latest Chrome. No plans on including it separately.

They disable some features, e.g. <a ping>, and they plan to disable more. It would be useful to somehow note which features are disabled. Perhaps they could be included as a separate column only for the features where they differ from Chrome?

[sxiii]

Chromium-based or electron-based browsers can be, for example, be a part of category inherited by chromium.

[mbomb007]

Agreed. Brave isn't Chrome. It's based on Chromium, but can differ. Brave technically has separate market share, and it makes sense for them to be tracked separately.

[jmanico]

I would like to add a vote to include Brave separately. I'd like to understand which security controls do or do not exist and/or have different default behavior in Brave.

[ErrorRaffyline0]

I don't see why Opera can be supported yet Brave cannot.

[Mubelotix]

Brave needs to be added as they support features that do not exist in chrome like IPFS. This is blocking #6151

[tomasdev]

Opera has its own rendering engine. It has been historically a browser of its own. Brave is built on top of Chromium and provides features that are not standarized or even drafted (like IPFS mentioned above)

I think it should be Brave's responsibility to provide that "diff".

The comparison should not be against Opera, but rather against Edge. Edge is also now based on Chromium and I assume it's only there for historical reasons.

[Dwarden]

Opera has its own rendering engine. It has been historically a browser of its own. Brave is built on top of Chromium and provides features that are not standarized or even drafted (like IPFS mentioned above)

the last version of Opera using Presto engine was v12 in 2014, since then it's on Chromium / Blink
original Presto/Opera developers left and are making Vivaldi browser (also on Chromium)

still i would like to see what 'subset' browsers based off Chromium are using via 'filters'
sadly that ain't possible on caniuse.com yet

[ghost]

Here are 2 big differences that I've found:

• No support for Idle Detection API
  • Disable idle detection API
• File System API disabled behind flag
  • via

[luisalvarado]

I got here because I was researching why brave does not show on the caniuse but it does ot properly answer why brave is not shown as an option since there are not exactly unique to chrome.

[Mubelotix]

I got here because I was researching why brave does not show on the caniuse but it does ot properly answer why brave is not shown as an option since there are not exactly unique to chrome.

There is no reason, someone just needs to implement it and nobody seems to have invested that time yet

[luisalvarado]

I got here because I was researching why brave does not show on the caniuse but it does ot properly answer why brave is not shown as an option since there are not exactly unique to chrome.

There is no reason, someone just needs to implement it and nobody seems to have invested that time yet

Am I able to try? or is it for a specific group?

[firefoxic]

Guys, you have a data file of several megabytes! Maybe before adding something else, you should at least drop dead browsers from the database. And all these Brave, Opera, and others would be better grouped into one Chromium-based category, and only somewhere in the notes to the feature explain that it is supported in such and such browser or not.

Sorry if I sound rude, but it is unrealistic to cram the whole zoo of Chromiums into this ark. I went to the repository to look for an issue discussing the removing of dead browsers so I could maybe vote in favor. And here you want to add more. Even caniuse-lite takes 2 megabytes, although at the start of the project 7 years ago it was less than 1 megabyte. And the vast majority of information (both about dead browsers and very ancient versions of live ones) is hardly ever useful to anyone. It feels like this snowball is going to crush us soon.

[Mubelotix]

Guys, you have a data file of several megabytes! Maybe before adding something else, you should at least drop dead browsers from the database. And all these Brave, Opera, and others would be better grouped into one Chromium-based category, and only somewhere in the notes to the feature explain that it is supported in such and such browser or not.

Sorry if I sound rude, but it is unrealistic to cram the whole zoo of Chromiums into this ark. I went to the repository to look for an issue discussing the removing of dead browsers so I could maybe vote in favor. And here you want to add more. Even caniuse-lite takes 2 megabytes, although at the start of the project 7 years ago it was less than 1 megabyte. And the vast majority of information (both about dead browsers and very ancient versions of live ones) is hardly ever useful to anyone. It feels like this snowball is going to crush us soon.

You are telling us the design of the project is flawed but I see ways to improve it. Chromium-based browsers all act like chromium except for a few features. That means we only need the information for these highly specific features, which isn't a lot at all. A new format could make this very easy

[mbomb007]

Is the data binary encoded or something, with a 1 for supported and 0 for not? You could easily compress data like that. You could also use a "diff", where Brave or Opera only needs to encode what's different from the Chromium version.

And nobody is asking for a whole zoo of Chromiums, just the most popular ones that are justifiably different.

And also, 2 MB isn't going to crush anybody. That's like the size of a small PDF that contains images.

[firefoxic]

And also, 2 MB isn't going to crush anybody. That's like the size of a small PDF that contains images.

It's not about the current file size, it's about the growth trend. And these megabytes are not the same as a PDF file that just exists. The database has to be constantly maintained. I honestly don't envy Alexis, it's a hell of a lot of work for the good of us all, and I sincerely wish him some relief.

[pr0cesor]

Brave uses the Chromium rendering engine, so support should match the latest Chrome. No plans on including it separately.

Flipper lab website (https://lab.flipper.net/) does not support Brave although as you said it uses chromium rendering engine. So definitely should be checked out why Brave browser is not supported.

[noliveira95]

+1 for adding Brave to the list.

[ghost]

Given that many so-called "progressives" (who migrated to Mastodon where the maintainer's socials are) tend to hate Brendan Eich and the Brave browser... I'd wager that Brave and anything else that Brendan has done is being hard ignored with a passion.

So don't get your hopes up. Clear evidence of engine differences has been shown over and over again here and elsewhere. If you want to fix this glaring omission you'll probably have to fork it and run your own site.

[YoeriW]

+1 for adding Brave to the list and removing dead browsers like KaiOS, Baidu, Opera Mini, QQ Browser, Internet Explorer, UC Browser for Android