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when- and where-clauses as modifiers: relative or not? #389

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nschneid opened this issue Feb 19, 2023 · 3 comments
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when- and where-clauses as modifiers: relative or not? #389

nschneid opened this issue Feb 19, 2023 · 3 comments

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nschneid commented Feb 19, 2023

I have been struggling with how to draw the line. Proposing the following:

Modifier clauses marked with when or where may be hard to classify as relative or non-relative. CGEL pp. 1078-1079 presents arguments that two structures are possible in some cases. We use the following heuristics:

  1. A where-clause that modifies a reference to (broadly speaking) a place/situation/arrangement, or a when-clause that modifies a reference to a time, is a relative clause.

    • the hole where the ground caved in
    • I heard it on [a show where members of the administration often appear as guests]
    • I heard it on [one of the Sunday shows, where it is customary to have interviews with administration spokespeople]
    • the date when I’ll be back from my trip
    • please schedule it on [the 26th, when I’ll be back from my trip]

    An adnominal where-clause that can be readily paraphrased with in which or similar is also considered a relative clause:

    • a situation where/in which nobody wins
    • a journey where/on which you get to experience different cultures
  2. If it is a where-clause and where has a locative meaning, treat it as a free relative.

    • Where I had lunch yesterday, it was very windy.
    • Where I was __ yesterday, it was very windy.
    • Where I came from __, it was very windy.
  3. Otherwise, default to the non-relative analysis (acl or advcl). Here the adverb is functioning as neither interrogative nor relative.

    • Where you might be tempted to fold, I am willing to call the bet. (non-locative)
    • When Nixon resigned, the disruption was substantial.
    • Nobody had anticipated [the disruption when Nixon resigned]
    • the unemployment rate when Biden came into office

I am on the fence about whether to omit PronType in the 3rd case, because the adverb is neither interrogative no relative. The status quo is that any non-relative word with a PTB tag of WDT, WP, WP$ or WRB gets PronType=Int.

N.B. In #88 we decided that when and where are always ADV/advmod. While (except for nominal uses like a while) is considered SCONJ and not a relativizer.

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Borderline are cases where the clause modifies a noun meaning something generic like "issue" or "situation":

  • the issue where nobody wants to leave - feels like case 3
  • a situation where/in which nobody wants to leave - inclined to treat this as an RC, case 1

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nschneid commented Feb 20, 2023

  • I'm under 21+ and looking for a nice place to take my boyfriend out for [dinner where they play music and there is a dance floor]. - this can be paraphrased as "in a place where" (not "in which place"). free relative?
    • actually, I think a better analysis is that the RC modifies "place" not "dinner"
  • I told her it's normal to drink all day at a bar, then go to [dinner where you don't know half the people there] - similar. Arguably "there" represents the location slot of the "know" event (though it's annotated as a dependent of "people"), so is it right to say that "where" is extracted? Maybe this is an exception to case 2 and should be treated like case 3. Or is the sentence just a bit redundant?
    • RC should modify "go". "there" modifying "people" is OK even in an RC. "a bar where/in which half the people there are drunk"
  • Perhaps, we should start with just a 1 or 2 day [contract where I give some thoughts to the kind of issues that we discussed and come to Houston to present my preliminary thoughts and possible avenues for additional work]. - paraphrase: "wherein", "in which". Generalize notion of "place" in case 1 to "place, situation, or arrangement"?
  • Inspection of certain of the above inventory balances, by third party inspectors, where there is an expectation that circularisation replies will not be received on a timely basis - currently acl:relcl(Inspection, is)
    • easy paraphrase with "in which" Actually I think this is "where" in the sense of "if", so non-relative. Changing to advcl

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See also #388

nschneid added a commit to UniversalDependencies/docs that referenced this issue Apr 16, 2023
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