Proposal for a rqt_experimental_plugins and rqt_core_plugins packages #167
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I think it is a good idea to divide the packages. But the question is, how are "normal" users of rqt going to see experimental plugins in the GUI? |
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Good idea on making it also visible in the GUI. A text tag would suffice I think. Though we would have to add a flag for this state in the plugin.xml. I would suggest a "stable=true" flag somewhere to be added only once a plugin has officially left experimental status. I was thinking we wouldn't install them with "desktop" but making the status visible would be another option. |
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Splitting the "experimental" plugins into their own repo does not really buy us anything. On the positive side the tickets get separated but on the negative side reintegrating them later with history is more of a challenge. The most significant thing is that the user does not even notice so nothing changes from his impression that the plugin is supposed to work. Anyway splitting each plugin into its own repo could be a good thing in the long run - also to decouple their releases. We might want to consider to group all the plugins in the plugin menu. On the one hand that would anyway be useful since the plain list gets already pretty long and confusing. On the other hand we could use one group name like "under development" / "experimental" and put some plugins there. Would someone put together a complete list of plugins and propose a grouping of them? |
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+1 splitting plugins into their own repos and as long as we keep sort of "plugin release groups" concept so they can be easily installed enmass. +1 adding some sort of groups tag to the pluglin.xml to use for hierarchy in the drop down. I'll look into some possible groupings for the plugins we currently have. |
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rqt already supports grouping (even nested). Just propose a list so we can iterate them - I can then deploy the necessary changes. |
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Here is a preliminary grouping that seems to make sense: Group names are up for debate obviously Introspect ROS System: View/Edit ROS State: Visualization: Robot Command: Robot Monitoring: Tools: Experimental: |
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I agree the names need serious work. Any ideas welcome. For "introspect system". I was thinking more of things at look of the state For view edit I was thinking things that look at actively moving ROS parts. I guessed on move it monitor. If I was wrong it can be moved. Runtime monitor is a basic diagnostic aggregator viewer. Robot monitor is I like the idea of robot specific groups and then a " robot monitoring" for On Monday, August 26, 2013, Dirk Thomas wrote:
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This is how I would organize them with some plugin name changes for consistency. Obviously these are just my opinion, not sure how we can iterate on this:
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+1 on William's list/name change iteration. |
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Regarding the list from @wjwwood:
Minor rename:
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Slightly refined grouping (as sent to the mailing list): Actions
Services
Topics
Logging
(How should this group be named?)
Introspection
Visualization
Robot
Robot Tools
Miscellaneous Tools
Updated based on feedback:
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+1 for the hierarchy |
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@DorianScholz good point - I updated the above list. |
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Please consider checking out the latest versions of the plugin repo and see for yourself if the grouping makes sense. I will mark this ticket as closed. If you have further feedback/suggestions please feel free to comment . |
Changes since 0.2.16: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Changelog for package rqt_reconfigure ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 0.3.8 (2014-07-15) ------------------ 0.3.7 (2014-07-11) ------------------ * fix slider bar, add context menus for common operations (`#251 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/251>`_) * fix bug in float range calculations (`#241 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/241>`_) * remove experimental suffix from rqt_reconfigure (`#256 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/256>`_) * export architecture_independent flag in package.xml (`#254 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/254>`_) 0.3.6 (2014-06-02) ------------------ * remove unnecessary margins to improve usability on small screens (`#228 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/228>`_) 0.3.5 (2014-05-07) ------------------ * numerous improvements and bug fixes (`#209 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/pull/209>`_, `#210 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/pull/210>`_) * add option to open list of names from command line (`#214 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/pull/214>`_) 0.3.4 (2014-01-28) ------------------ 0.3.3 (2014-01-08) ------------------ * add groups for rqt plugins, renamed some plugins (`#167 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/167>`_) * mark rqt_launch and rqt_reconfigure as experimental (`#167 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/167>`_) 0.3.2 (2013-10-14) ------------------ 0.3.1 (2013-10-09) ------------------ 0.3.0 (2013-08-28) ------------------ * fix updating range limits (`#108 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/108>`_) * fix layout quirks (`#150 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/150>`_) * fix icon for closing a node (`#48 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/48>`_) * fix handling of enum parameters with strings 0.2.17 (2013-07-04) ------------------- * Improvement; "GUI hangs for awhile or completely, when any one of nodes doesn't return any value" (`#81 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/81>`_) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Changelog for package rqt_topic ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 0.3.8 (2014-07-15) ------------------ 0.3.7 (2014-07-11) ------------------ * export architecture_independent flag in package.xml (`#254 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/254>`_) 0.3.6 (2014-06-02) ------------------ 0.3.5 (2014-05-07) ------------------ 0.3.4 (2014-01-28) ------------------ 0.3.3 (2014-01-08) ------------------ * add groups for rqt plugins, renamed some plugins (`#167 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/167>`_) * catch and show exceptions `#198 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/198>`_ 0.3.2 (2013-10-14) ------------------ 0.3.1 (2013-10-09) ------------------ * improve rqt_topic initialization time (`#62 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/62>`_) * modified toggling topics to use checkbox instead of context menu (`#75 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/75>`_) 0.3.0 (2013-08-28) ------------------ * fix cleaning old data in rqt_topic (fix `#74 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/74>`_) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Changelog for package rqt_top ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 0.3.8 (2014-07-15) ------------------ 0.3.7 (2014-07-11) ------------------ * export architecture_independent flag in package.xml (`#254 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/254>`_) 0.3.6 (2014-06-02) ------------------ 0.3.5 (2014-05-07) ------------------ 0.3.4 (2014-01-28) ------------------ * fix sort order for numerical fields (`#205 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/205>`_) 0.3.3 (2014-01-08) ------------------ * add groups for rqt plugins, renamed some plugins (`#167 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/167>`_) * fix an error caused by SIGKILLing nodes 0.3.2 (2013-10-14) ------------------ 0.3.1 (2013-10-09) ------------------ 0.3.0 (2013-08-28) ------------------ * remove copy of psutil module and implement missing function (`#105 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/105>`_) 0.2.17 (2013-07-06) ------------------- * Embeds python-psutil in the package in order to be enabled on Ubuntu Precise * first release of this package into hydro ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Changelog for package rqt_image_view ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 0.3.8 (2014-07-15) ------------------ 0.3.7 (2014-07-11) ------------------ 0.3.6 (2014-06-02) ------------------ 0.3.5 (2014-05-07) ------------------ * list image transport topics if parent image topic is not available (`#215 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/215>`_) 0.3.4 (2014-01-28) ------------------ 0.3.3 (2014-01-08) ------------------ * add groups for rqt plugins, renamed some plugins (`#167 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/167>`_) * properly handle aligned images * wrap cv calls in try-catch-block (`#201 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/201>`_) 0.3.2 (2013-10-14) ------------------ 0.3.1 (2013-10-09) ------------------ * fix event handling for rqt_image_view enabling to run multiple instances simultaneously (`#66 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/66>`_) * add rqt_image_view to global bin (`#168 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/168>`_) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Changelog for package rqt_bag_plugins ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 0.3.8 (2014-07-15) ------------------ * fix missing installation of resource subfolder 0.3.7 (2014-07-11) ------------------ * add plotting plugin (`#239 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/239>`_) * fix rqt_bag to plot array members (`#253 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/253>`_) * export architecture_independent flag in package.xml (`#254 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/254>`_) 0.3.6 (2014-06-02) ------------------ 0.3.5 (2014-05-07) ------------------ * fix PIL/Pillow error (`#224 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/224>`_) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Changelog for package rqt_plot ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 0.3.8 (2014-07-15) ------------------ * fix missing installation of Python subpackage 0.3.7 (2014-07-11) ------------------ * fix missing import (`#248 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/248>`_) * significant improvements and unification of different plot backends (`#239 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/239>`_, `#231 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/231>`_) * make more things plottable including arrays and simple message types (`#246 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/246>`_) * make DataPlot a proxy for its plot widget, redraw after loading new data, add clear_values (`#236 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/236>`_) * export architecture_independent flag in package.xml (`#254 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/254>`_) 0.3.6 (2014-06-02) 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<https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/110>`_) * fix rendering of icons on OS X (`ros-visualization/rqt#83 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt/issues/83>`_) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Changelog for package rqt_console ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 0.3.8 (2014-07-15) ------------------ 0.3.7 (2014-07-11) ------------------ * export architecture_independent flag in package.xml (`#254 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/254>`_) 0.3.6 (2014-06-02) ------------------ 0.3.5 (2014-05-07) ------------------ 0.3.4 (2014-01-28) ------------------ 0.3.3 (2014-01-08) ------------------ * add groups for rqt plugins, renamed some plugins (`#167 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/167>`_) * use icons instead of text when available, refactor pause/resume button 0.3.2 (2013-10-14) ------------------ 0.3.1 (2013-10-09) ------------------ * rewrite of rqt_console to drastically improve performance (`#186 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/pull/186>`_) 0.3.0 (2013-08-28) ------------------ * pause button no more saves state (`#125 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/125>`_) * persist message limit (`#138 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/138>`_) * add ability to set logger level (`#117 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/117>`_) * add tooltips to table cells (`#143 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/143>`_) * improve labels for filters (`#146 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/146>`_) * fix time column when loading data from file (`#160 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/160>`_) * fix applying message limit on change (`#133 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/133>`_) * fix clear button to remove all messages (`#141 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/141>`_) * fix sorting to use row index to decide order between equal values (except for time column) (`#124 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/124>`_) * fix locking of message queue * fix rendering of icons on OS X (`ros-visualization/rqt#83 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt/issues/83>`_) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Changelog for package rqt_graph ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 0.3.8 (2014-07-15) ------------------ 0.3.7 (2014-07-11) ------------------ * fix compatibility with Groovy, use TopicStatistics only if available (`#252 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/252>`_) * export architecture_independent flag in package.xml (`#254 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/254>`_) 0.3.6 (2014-06-02) ------------------ 0.3.5 (2014-05-07) ------------------ * add displaying of topic/connection statistics along edges (`#214 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/pull/214>`_) * using CATKIN_ENABLE_TESTING to optionally configure tests (`#220 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/pull/220>`_) 0.3.4 (2014-01-28) ------------------ 0.3.3 (2014-01-08) ------------------ * add groups for rqt plugins, renamed some plugins (`#167 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/issues/167>`_) 0.3.2 (2013-10-14) ------------------ 0.3.1 (2013-10-09) ------------------ * modified zooming method to work better on high-res trackpads like Macbook Pros (`#187 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt_common_plugins/pull/187>`_) 0.3.0 (2013-08-28) ------------------ * fix rendering of icons on OS X (`ros-visualization/rqt#83 <https://github.com/ros-visualization/rqt/issues/83>`_) 0.2.17 (2013-07-04) ------------------- * Improve checkbox labels and tooltips wording.
This package would house new plugins that we would wish to add to common_plugins until they stabilize (have no Major bug Issues etc).
This would give the rqt user a better idea of what plugins we are presenting as stable and fully developed.
It would also help keep the number of issues on the main repo down so it is clear to users what bugs and enhancements we are focusing on.
Less important but it might be wise to have a distinction between the really critical core plugins and the "nice to haves". rqt_core_plugins could house rqt_console, rqt_image_view, rqt_plot and all the other "it is significantly harder to use ROS without a tool like this" plugins.
rqt_common_plugins could house things like rqt_msg, rqt_srv, rqt_action and rqt_web that are useful sometimes but something you could live without.
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