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===Grammar Catalogue===
currently we have summary pages: eg. ErgTop
hands raised for ppl wanting more Top pages (or similar), similar number people willing to create this data
emily discusses possible fields (lexicon size, # types, canonical citation, etc)
antske: anonymity regarding grammars is good for submitting papers, so we should be able to have demos separate from identifying data
glenn: likes
laurie: if using database, easy to query for phenomena
- glenn: but can't "glance" at table to see overview of fields emily: we'll want a database, but interface can be
antonio: how much metadata? too much? perhaps we should do "stages" of adding info to the database.
francis: how many can we automatically extract? should we have standard names for components (e.g. unknown word handling)
ann: we should definitely ground numbers and things on test sets (or something objectively measurable)
- francis: so we need an expanded MRS test set? dan: for langs without a feature, typically the same sentence will appear twice for that feature. dan: related to matrix's item file creation with phenomenon labels
francis: canonical.bib for automating citation extraction
stephan: this database (and scripts) should be in a repository so we have versions
emily volunteers francis for making script to extract features
laurie: MRS test suite is too small to cover phenomena featured in some languages
stephan: a phenomena wiki?
laurie: is there any benefits for grammar developers to do this?
ann: the infrastructure for coordinating is lacking. E.g. we added some sentences to the MRS test suite that weren't adopted.
francis: we need a "not in my language" option.
dan: we need a translation, not just monolingual sentences with phenomena listed
??: but with english how to illustrate? a paragraph of explanation?
stephan: running out of time, but main point is we need a repository of phenomena, or find one that exists
francis: how many phenomena might exist?
- laurie: i originally asked for this to see languages with semantic perfect (fine-grained distinction) emily: probably 300 at least, if people do it maybe 1000
bart: we should create a framework for this catalogue so it's there, and fill in values later
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