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TemporalPros
My (pro) Noun Needs Your Verb
David Inman
"Temporal" Pronouns
3 categories, Recency, Overlap, and First
temporal pronoun both subj and obj
grammar currently treats as pronouns but wanting a new analysis
- maybe an adverb?
Emily: could be an auxiliary
Dan: can you provide evidence that it must combine with the whole phrase or just the verb?
David: there can be intervening words
Hans: can be more aux or modal, to make sure its in that class, you can never use this without a verb?
A person who has changed overnight, could you say "me yesterday"
David: can use separately only as 3rd masculine, then its like an adverb
David: example: "I took her first (as my wife)"
OVERLAP always occurs with 2 clauses. This is definitely off-algebra.
Emily: looks like English adverb, whenever, takes a clause missing its argument as its complement
Guy: a slash-based analysis, because David mentioned regular pronoun was analyzed as a slash argument.
David: They can only have one per clause. Restricted slash list to one and say if you have anything on slash list it must be co-indexed.
Emily: if these are not peripheral then slash-based gets stickier
Guy: what could go outside of it?
Dan: Why do you care if its peripheral? I'm an adverb that modifies a verb with a gap. I modify the verb but I have access to the slash argument.
Emily: fine for all but When
Emily: verb - pronoun - verb's other argument
Dan: When can take a complement. Where's the agreement?
Emily: Complement
Emily: Fish when I eat. Adverb that binds off the slash of the verb that I modify.
Emily: no evidence of long distance dependency
Guy: also that its subject and object
Dan: seems to me that's compatible.
Emily: modifier will grab two hooks. Hook of adverb and hook of slash.
Dan: two functions at the same time: filler head and modifier, both are legitimate.
David: Using slash list as handy way of keeping track of pronoun restrictions
"that person when he see is collared peccary"
Guy: Could we have 3.when combined with person before the verb?
Emily: Could that person belong with the second phrase?
Dan: if slash-based works then predicates other things. fun to see what happens in coordination.
Emily: coordinated phrase with the subject and object of two phrases also interesting
Dan: Predictions being made that you could in principal test
David: If we are just using slash, then this is all on-algebra
Emily: operators associated with rules in latest papers, curious algebra-wise how that gets worked out.
Dan: place to take of this may be lexical sub-categorization. May not be a challenge to algebra because its done in the lexical item.
Emily: I agree, but want to see what it looks like.
Francis: can the filler say I'm look for a verb missing its arg 2?
Dan: No. But I do type the slash list.
"Which violin is this sonata easier to play on"
English makes two paths in. A verb phrase with two holes in it. Must have a slash list with 2, slavic languages maybe more than 2.
David: it is a hack.
Dan: An interesting observation not a hack.
David: I don't think I'm using slash as it was defined for.
Dan: No, I think you are using it in the right way
"John admired and told his friend to buy a new Volkswagon"
Emily: what happens with wh-questions?
David: they move to the left
Emily: can they cross clause boundaries?
David: Yes, but I'll have to check the corpus.
Dan: "John said he caught a big fish, but where's the fish he said he's caught"
David: I think straightforward to expand it to have slashes. Maybe take care of it in ICONS
Emily: Using slash but not long distance.
David: don't think I have enough examples of this
Guy: could have wh-word and temporal pronoun. They you can't support slash analysis.
David: I should check for other slashy things. Didn't have enough time.
Rapid discussion of similar analysis of similar phenomena.
David: has anyone come across cases where things called nouns but had adverbials on it.
Dan: "He'll be here, Tuesday"
Emily: Paper on nominal tense...
Nordinger, Rachel, and Louisa Sadler. "Nominal Tense in crosslinguistic perspective." Language (2004): 776-806
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